Posted on 05/06/2025 2:18:37 AM PDT by dennisw
Specifically, to complain that a YouTube channel in Belarus is a "foolish propaganda site" is entertaining, because "after 3+ years" of posting a YouTube channel by a legal resident of Switzerland is quite the same for her as posting YouTube channels made in San Francisco. A propagandist always claims the other guy / gal is a propagandist while they are never a propagandist.
Detailed sampling from Free Republic threads now years old:
Update from Ukraine | I expect Russia to leave Kherson very soon | Glory to Ukraine!
10/15/2022, 12:26:12 AM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Youtube- https://t.me/pilotblog ^ | Oct 14, 2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct 14, 20220:01 / 10:46Update from Ukraine | Allies will close the sky of Ukraine | More soldiers were trained in UK
10/13/2022, 3:16:13 AM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Youtube ^ | Oct 12, 2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct 12, 2022Update from Ukraine | Ukraine wants to protect the North | Russia Can't fight back and fire rockets
10/11/2022, 11:30:08 PM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Youtube ^ | Denys Davydov
October 12, 2022Update from Ukraine | Attack on Ukraine | Agony of Russian Regime
10/11/2022, 12:09:33 AM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
youtube.com ^ | Oct 10, 2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct 10, 2022Update from Ukraine | Attack on Kerch Bridge | The supply line still works for Ruzzia
10/8/2022, 9:29:48 PM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
youtube.com ^ | Oct 8, 2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct 8, 2022Update from Ukraine | Kherson will be taken | Russia used drones to fight back
10/5/2022, 7:02:25 PM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Youtube ^ | Oct 5, 2022 | denys davydov
Oct 5, 2022tUpdate from Ukraine | Russia Runs from the South | Kherson will be liberated
10/4/2022, 11:17:10 PM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
youtube.com ^ | 10-4-2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct. 4, 2022Update from Ukraine: One more Counterattack of Ukraine | Russian army in Panic!
10/2/2022, 11:40:27 PM · by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Youtube ^ | Oct 2, 2022 | Denys Davydov
Oct 2, 2022
The tragic Ukraine-Russia war and all its leadup has been conducted, in part, as an information war -- targeting the West, as one notices that Ukrainians speak in Ukrainian and Russians speak in Russian, while the YouTube stuff is so consistently conducted in English for English speakers. Information warfare. She has fired her "salvos" for years, and complains when others fire theirs.
Kazan: "Glad to see you admit that."
That reason alone was justification for Russia going into Ukraine."
Only in your own wildest Russkiy Mir fantasies.
In fact, having illegally invaded, seized & annexed Crimea, Russians had no legal claims on Ukrainian water.
Nor, as it turned out, did Crimeans need as much water as they'd previously grown accustomed to.
Kazan : "It was outrageous that the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev was cutting water off the the residents of Crimea.
It's beyond absurd for the Ukrainians to claim they were or are trying to liberate the people there."
What's outrageous is that the Russkiy Mir Nazis who invaded & annexed Ukraine should expect any support from Ukrainians.
What's beyond absurd is for Putin's Russkiy Miroviches to claim they have any legitimate "right" to invade Crimea or anywhere else in Ukraine.
Kazan: "The Ukrainian government despises the people of Crimea because the people there no longer wanted to remain part of Ukraine after the illegal coup we fomented, one that saw a President they voted for impeached illegally."
Clearly, Ukrainians want to see all Russian forces and illegally imported Russian citizens removed from Crimea.
Ukrainian citizens, if there are any still left, will be welcomed to stay legally.
As for the alleged "illegal coup" and "illegal impeachment", you well know the facts and yet continue to repeat Russian propaganda lies.
In fact, Putin's stooge traitor Yanukovych fled to Moscow on February 22, 2014, and invited Russians to invade his own country!
Being physically gone from Kiev, Yanukovych was not "impeached", he was simply removed by Ukraine's Congress, by a vote of 328 to 0, and replaced by a temporary office holder pending new elections in June 2014.
The issue of Yanukovych's removal was brought before Ukraine's Constitutional court, twice, and both times was ruled proper and constitutional.
So, you can babble Russian propaganda as long and loud as you want, but the facts remain the facts.
Putin's "Little Green Men" invading Ukraine in 2014:
There you go again with that GDP hokem.
That's like saying I've got a $5000 credit card balance, but because my income has gone up 20%, I'm okay. What a stupid and naive comment. That increase in income does not change the fact that I have a $5000 balance. Get real, Pretzel man!
I'm not sure how you run your household, but with thinking like that, you're in trouble. Your stupidity is showing big time. People like you are why we have a $37 trillion debt that is growing and that will sink us if we don't fix it.
"So, in your convoluted explanation, you're telling me straight away that if we removed that $20 trillion in spending, it would not reduce our overall budgetary spending and reduce the amount we need to borrow to pay the bill."
Sure, and if you just stopped eating for a year, it would reduce your weight by at least 75%, but you'd also be dead.
Who said we had to stop eating or shut down military spending? If you're fat, you stop eating as much. Get it? If you're spending trillions on the military, you reduce your spending. Especially when that military is bloated and totally ineffective! That's not too hard to understand, is it? Maybe for you it is, Mr. Warmonger.
Point is, the US is far from helpless or unable to defend our national interests.
That was clearly true 80 years ago. But, it ain't 80 years ago. If you know anything about world history, many empires have come and gone. Nothing lasts forever, and our influence in the world has declined and is continuing to decline! Want evidence.....
-China's economy is equal to ours in terms of purchasing power parity. Check out the last quarterly growth for the US vs China if you doubt it. Better yet, compare the last 25 years, Mr. GDP man. And they've gone from one of the poorest countries on the planet to a global power in less than 50 years. Quite an accomplishment.
-Our position as the world's leading economy and currency is declining and will continue to do so with the advent of groups like BRICS
-We've gone around the world attacking and losing (or not winning) in places like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine.
-We can't win even as we attack countries that are 50% to 60% smaller than we are. Not only do we waste big bucks but think of the humanity we've destroyed -- including much of our own blood.
We've had our day in the sun like the Greeks, Romans, Britain (sun never sets on British empire -- until it stops), and so many others.
Nobody said we were weak. But the trend is that we are facing other parts of the world that are growing up and becoming more powerful. It's called competition, and if you're dumb and weak -- you lose. That's life, and we need to wake up and adjust, get smarter, or fall.
We can no longer bully the rest of the world, 'cause they're going to fight back and we're broke and can't keep up the race any longer. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Keep your head in the sand, Mr. Pretzel man. I'm sure it'll work out fine -- NOT!
It's true that I do receive a Social Security check from the US government every month.
But I am not required to perform any services in exchange, nor does anyone else pay me to post in defense of my country, the United States of America.
Can you say the same for yourself and all of your pro-Russian comrades-in-words posting here?
Kazan: "You've been caught lying here repeatedly."
Only claimed to be "lies" by our pro-Russian propagandists, such as yourself.
Kazan: "You're defending the corruption within OUR GOVERNMENT under Obama and Biden."
That is a flat-out lie.
Kazan: "Everything that has happened in Ukraine is a result of illegal coup we fomented in Ukraine that setoff a civil war.
We then installed a government hostile to Moscow in violation of the Ukrainian constitution, which required Ukraine to be neutral toward Russia."
All of that is pure Russian propaganda nonsense and the facts are quite different:
Sen. McCaine addressing 800,000 EuroMaidan protestors, December 13, 2013:
That's another total lie, as explained by Soviet Premier Michael Gorbachev himself:
Gorbachev, Reagan & Baker, 1989:
Kazan: "Everyone, including Joe Biden in 1997, knew the Russians weren't going to tolerate NATO expanding eastward and posing on threat on its borders, especially one that threatened its access to its naval base in Crimea."
Whatever concerns Sen. Biden expressed in 1997, by 1999 he and the Clinton administration were fully onboard with NATO expansion to Poland, Czechia & Hungary, and in 2004 to the Baltics, Romania & Bulgaria.
Kazan: "If Russia or China did something similar in Mexico, we would invade."
That's complete nonsense, for several reasons:
Mexican navy Sigma class corvettes, 1,600 tons
Designed by the Dutch Damen Group, built in Mexico:
Since Russia's invasions of 2014, Ukrainians in Crimea and the Donbas have been driven out and replaced by actual Russian citizens now living in, and claiming ownership of, Ukrainian territories.
So, for you to claim that those Russians living in Ukraine don't want to go back under Ukraine's sovereignty, yes, that could be accurate, but it's irrelevant, since those Russians have no legitimate right to be in Ukraine in the first place.
That's why it's actually Russians who've done to Ukrainians in Crimea & Donbas just what they did for centuries to Jews with persecutions, pogroms & expulsions from Russia.
It's why some 2 million Jews left the old Tsarist Russian Empire in the late 19th & early 20th centuries, settling mostly in the USA.
Fidler on the Roof -- Jews expelled from Russia, 1905:
An important statement was made by the Supreme Commander overnight from May 10 to 11, about Moscow’s readiness for direct negotiations with Kyiv in Istanbul without preconditions. At the same time, the Supreme Commander emphasized numerous facts of ceasefire violations by the AFU, including mentioning a massive air raid on our regions on the eve of Victory Day.
▪️ Thus, disregarding the ceasefire proposed by Russia, the enemy attacked our borders: heavy fighting is ongoing now in Tyotkino, Kursk Region, where renowned “firefighting teams” have arrived. Paramilitary formations of the Russian Army demonstrated high efficiency in defending the Crimean coast. That is, in the 4th year of the war, battles were taking place at our so-called “historical borders”.
▪️ We managed to protect Moscow from a raid of more than 500 AFU drones, but the enemy continues to terrorize the Bryansk, Kursk, and Belgorod Regions. It is pointless to mention the DPR, Zaporizhia, and Kherson Regions, where daily heavy fighting has not stopped for a second. The enemy has deployed MBRLs at sea and silenced them in standby mode to act against Russian Black Sea facilities in a couple of days. Our forces are strengthening coastal defense as much as possible. In general, the war is progressing as usual, our forces are advancing with heavy fighting in the Kostyantynivka direction, the issue of a ceasefire is being discussed everywhere where battles are taking place.
An important statement was made by the Supreme Commander overnight from May 10 to 11, about Moscow’s readiness for direct negotiations with Kyiv in Istanbul without preconditions. At the same time, the Supreme Commander emphasized numerous facts of ceasefire violations by the AFU, including mentioning a massive air raid on our regions on the eve of Victory Day.
▪️ Thus, disregarding the ceasefire proposed by Russia, the enemy attacked our borders: heavy fighting is ongoing now in Tyotkino, Kursk Region, where renowned “firefighting teams” have arrived. Paramilitary formations of the Russian Army demonstrated high efficiency in defending the Crimean coast. That is, in the 4th year of the war, battles were taking place at our so-called “historical borders”.
▪️ We managed to protect Moscow from a raid of more than 500 AFU drones, but the enemy continues to terrorize the Bryansk, Kursk, and Belgorod Regions. It is pointless to mention the DPR, Zaporizhia, and Kherson Regions, where daily heavy fighting has not stopped for a second. The enemy has deployed MBRLs at sea and silenced them in standby mode to act against Russian Black Sea facilities in a couple of days. Our forces are strengthening coastal defense as much as possible. In general, the war is progressing as usual, our forces are advancing with heavy fighting in the Kostyantynivka direction, the issue of a ceasefire is being discussed everywhere where battles are taking place.
An important statement was made by the Supreme Commander overnight from May 10 to 11, about Moscow’s readiness for direct negotiations with Kyiv in Istanbul without preconditions. At the same time, the Supreme Commander emphasized numerous facts of ceasefire violations by the AFU, including mentioning a massive air raid on our regions on the eve of Victory Day.
▪️ Thus, disregarding the ceasefire proposed by Russia, the enemy attacked our borders: heavy fighting is ongoing now in Tyotkino, Kursk Region, where renowned “firefighting teams” have arrived. Paramilitary formations of the Russian Army demonstrated high efficiency in defending the Crimean coast. That is, in the 4th year of the war, battles were taking place at our so-called “historical borders”.
▪️ We managed to protect Moscow from a raid of more than 500 AFU drones, but the enemy continues to terrorize the Bryansk, Kursk, and Belgorod Regions. It is pointless to mention the DPR, Zaporizhia, and Kherson Regions, where daily heavy fighting has not stopped for a second. The enemy has deployed MBRLs at sea and silenced them in standby mode to act against Russian Black Sea facilities in a couple of days. Our forces are strengthening coastal defense as much as possible. In general, the war is progressing as usual, our forces are advancing with heavy fighting in the Kostyantynivka direction, the issue of a ceasefire is being discussed everywhere where battles are taking place.
ARTICLE
Putin rejects 30-day ceasefire, proposes direct talks on Ukraine capitulation: Putin proposes restarting direct talks with Ukraine in Istanbul without preconditions, revisiting a format that collapsed in 2022 over Russian demands for capitulation.
euromaidanpress.com
By Yuri Zoria
11/05/2025
Overnight on 11 May, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced that he is ready to resume direct negotiations with Ukraine from 15 May in Istanbul. Previously, leaked documents had revealed that Moscow’s initial peace offer at the 2022 Istanbul talks amounted to Ukraine’s effective surrender. At the same time, the Russian dictator made no mention of the 30-day ceasefire proposal earlier advanced by Ukraine and the EU.
With his announcement, Putin effectively dismissed both Trump’s push for a truce and Ukraine-EU ceasefire proposal. On 10 May, Zelenskyy met in Kyiv with French President Macron, UK PM Starmer, Polish PM Tusk, and German Chancellor Merz, then joined them in a call with US President Trump to demand a full ceasefire from Russia starting 12 May.
Speaking during a night-time press conference at the Kremlin, held without questions from the press, Putin declared:
“We propose to the Kyiv authorities to resume negotiations, which were interrupted by them at the end of 2022. Resume direct negotiations—without any preconditions. We propose to start without delay already next Thursday, 15 May, in Istanbul—where they were held previously and where they were interrupted.”
Putin emphasized that Russia is “ready for serious negotiations” aimed at eliminating the so-called “root causes of the conflict.”
Russian officials have previously defined the so-called “root causes” of the full-scale invasion as NATO’s alleged breach of promises not to expand eastward and Ukraine’s alleged discrimination against ethnic Russians, as well as Russian language, media, and culture. Moscow’s conditions for ending the war include Ukraine’s “denazification” — effectively regime change — and demilitarization, amounting to Ukraine’s capitulation and subjugation as a Russian client state.
The Russian President claimed that a new ceasefire could emerge from such discussions, saying:
“We do not exclude that in the course of these negotiations it will be possible to agree on some new ceasefire—this would be a first step towards a long-term sustainable peace.”
Putin also announced plans to meet with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on 11 May to request his support in facilitating the Istanbul talks.
Zelenskyy responded to Putin’s proposal by stressing the need for an immediate halt to violence:
“There is no point in continuing the killing even for a single day. We expect Russia to confirm a ceasefire—full, lasting and reliable—starting tomorrow, 12 May, and Ukraine is ready to meet.”
He welcomed the possibility of Russia finally considering an end to the war:
“It is a positive sign that the Russians have finally begun to consider ending the war. The entire world has been waiting for this for a very long time. And the very first step in truly ending any war is a ceasefire.”
TRUTH
PONDER
You know perfectly well that a $5,000 credit card balance is one thing to a person who earns, say, $10,000 per year, and something very different to someone making $1 million per year.
A country's debt to GDP ratio is the same as an individual's debt to income ratio.
It's how our financial system works!
icclearly: "Who said we had to stop eating or shut down military spending?
If you're fat, you stop eating as much.
Get it?
If you're spending trillions on the military, you reduce your spending.
Especially when that military is bloated and totally ineffective!
That's not too hard to understand, is it?
Maybe for you it is, Mr. Warmonger."
First, Peace through Strength is not "warmongering", but military weakness does invite aggression by bad actors and so clearly, advocating for weakness is a form of warmongering.
Second, did I finally force you to confess that the US does need a powerful military to deter aggression and, if necessary, to defeat our enemies?
If so, then it only becomes a matter of deciding who, exactly, should decide on how much national defense is enough?
Should it be those who hate the United States and want to see us defeated wherever possible -- people like icclearly -- or should it be people who love our country, put Americans first and want to Make America Great Again?
I'd suggest it's the second group, not the first, and that the first should be excluded from all discussions on the matter.
icclearly: "China's economy is equal to ours in terms of purchasing power parity.
Check out the last quarterly growth for the US vs China if you doubt it.
Better yet, compare the last 25 years, Mr. GDP man.
And they've gone from one of the poorest countries on the planet to a global power in less than 50 years.
Quite an accomplishment."
Some of that is true enough, but much is also fake numbers from the Chinese Communists, more intended to impress and intimidate than to inform the world of what is actually going on inside CCP China.
And all of those accomplishments are the direct consequence of running massive trade surpluses with the US, and many other countries, totaling roughly $1 trillion per year.
Those surpluses have now ended forever, and China will sink back into whatever Communistic h*llhole they crawled up out of since the 1990s.
icclearly: "Our position as the world's leading economy and currency is declining and will continue to do so with the advent of groups like BRICS"
How the US loses wars: 1960s & 1975
We don't chose our enemies, they chose where to attack our friends and vital interests.
As for relative sizes, the US is:
As for your alleged "humanity we've destroyed" -- over the years, US weapons have grown increasingly precise, reducing "collateral damage" to absolute minimums.
At the same time, our enemies have grown increasingly diabolical in their efforts to hide their forces within or under civilian structures like hospitals & schools, thus using their own populations as human shields.
Regardless, the vast majority (90%+) of civilian deaths in any US war were caused by enemy actions, not American controlled weapons.
icclearly: "We've had our day in the sun like the Greeks, Romans, Britain (sun never sets on British empire -- until it stops), and so many others."
Pres. Trump calls this our Golden Age, which tells me he does not intend for the sun to set on America's allies & friends around the world.
What he does intend is to rebalance our economy, to restore the preeminence of our manufacturing sector, and to rebuild our military to dominate the world by Peace Through Strength.
icclearly: "We can no longer bully the rest of the world, 'cause they're going to fight back and we're broke and can't keep up the race any longer.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?"
The US has never "bullied" the world, but we have defended our allies & friends when they were invaded or attacked by the world's dictators & bullies -- Russia, China, NoKo & Iran, to name a few.
As for "broke", the US can always afford whatever national defense is truly necessary, if we deprioritize government waste, fraud, abuse and other such nonsense.
icclearly: "Keep your head in the sand, Mr. Pretzel man.
I'm sure it'll work out fine -- NOT!"
Says our head-in-the-sand "America Laster", icclearly.
1920 British Empire,
2025 US allies & friends (green & some blue, though not 100% accurate):
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