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US Can Produce Rare Earths If China Stops Exports–But There’s a Catch
The Epoch Times ^ | April 23, 2025 | John Haughey

Posted on 04/23/2025 9:18:21 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 04/23/2025 9:18:21 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Rare earths aren’t rare but it is costly, complex, and messy (environmental) to refine them, so the US outsourced that to China.

Chickens —> Roost.


2 posted on 04/23/2025 9:20:09 AM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: Red Badger
China just made a huge strategic blunder.

They have been working hard to corner the market as the worlds supplier of rare earth minerals so they can control access to high tech manufacturing in order to give them a big advantage in any down stream war.

They have been using predatory tactics to dump Chinese materials at below production price costs for competitors to pt them out of business or to allow China to acquire controlling interests in their operations at bargain basement prices.

Cutting the US off has had the combined effect of increasing demand and shoring up the bottom lines of the Chinese competition while waking up foreign governments and forcing them to realize the error of their reliance on China for strategic materials

3 posted on 04/23/2025 9:36:02 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: bigbob

So: an estimate from a knowledgeable person of a critical five year (probably optimistic) window of vulnerability before we can ramp up domestic sources.

That is the good news.

On the downside, the environmental groups are probably already fielding jump teams to search for a rare and endangered weed or insect that can power 30 years of lawfare. Cost is no object; Horoscope and the Chinese will launder whatever money the environment need, and ChatGPT means the necessary “scientific” studies can be written in seconds.


4 posted on 04/23/2025 9:36:57 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Red Badger

It sounds like there has to be about 5 years of talking and blathering about this critical topic before anything gets done.


5 posted on 04/23/2025 9:39:28 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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Well at first I thought "we need to start production" but the left would ban, protest, litigate and sabotage it, then the dems would kill it when they regained power.

Then I thought "we need a strategic stockpile of rare earths" but they'd sell it off, just like Biden did with oil...

6 posted on 04/23/2025 9:43:49 AM PDT by ZOOKER
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I wonder if our rare earth deposits contain ALL of the rare earths. Depending where you look, there are 15 or 17. Some have very low quantity esoteric uses and some are absolutely critical.


7 posted on 04/23/2025 9:44:31 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, it is near the end of the day.)
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To: bigbob

Rare earths aren’t rare but it is costly, complex, and messy (environmental) to refine them, so the US outsourced that to China.
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Exactly, open evaporation ponds, leeching, etc…the battle with the leftists, save the planet, Nazi EPA begins.


8 posted on 04/23/2025 9:45:26 AM PDT by delta7
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To: The Antiyuppie

A report by MacGregor states our coal deposits contain huge quantities of rare earths and other minerals.

I believe a map is included on his website.If pursued, Pennsylvania area will boom.


9 posted on 04/23/2025 9:49:19 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Red Badger

It’s better to develop resources outside of China now rather than wait until we are in a war somewhere.

Then China could cut us off then and we’d have no alternate suppliers.


10 posted on 04/23/2025 9:49:33 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: ZOOKER

The US and several NATO countries should form a ‘consortium’ corporation, similar to Airbus, To build refining facilities, produce and store these critical minerals, like a Fort Knox, and equally share their products............


11 posted on 04/23/2025 9:49:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Re: "Five years to develop a Rare Earth domestic supply chain."

Another job begging for Elon Musk.

12 posted on 04/23/2025 9:50:32 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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It could be done in less than half that............


13 posted on 04/23/2025 9:52:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

America has one problem, Democrat leftists!
“But “close” is a relative term when it comes to mining and refining, where proposed projects can routinely take 10 to 20 years to be approved.”
That is our problem.
I can dig a hole in the ground TODAY! but we have to let a Democrat “approve” it, so it may take years.


14 posted on 04/23/2025 9:59:47 AM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: rdcbn1

Calling this a “blunder” may be premature. Cutting off rare earth exports looks more like China playing a strong hand in response to tariffs—demonstrating leverage, not losing control.

As an aside, Lynas Rare Earths (LYSDY) dropped ~8% overnight after Trump suggested the U.S. and China would likely “work it out” on trade.


15 posted on 04/23/2025 9:59:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Red Badger

Leaving your supply of critical resources needed for your defense in the arms of a military opponent is...just colossally stupid. The time to start fixing this is right now.


16 posted on 04/23/2025 10:00:12 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Red Badger

Past time to start digging and processing.


17 posted on 04/23/2025 10:00:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: The Antiyuppie

The Mountain Pass deposit is rich in the lighter rare earths. The heavier rare earths such as dysprosium and yttrium are not not found in developed mines in the US (yet). The Greenland deposit does have the heavier REE that we need for electric motors and high tech electronics.

Lots of information can be found here: https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/uranium-resources/uranium-from-rare-earths-deposits

Rare earth mining is messy because almost always radioactive elements are found in conjunction with the REE. Separation of these elements from the ore bodies require acid leaching and other environmentally damaging processes. China doesn’t have an EPA or care about their workers. Hence most of the refining capacity is in China.


18 posted on 04/23/2025 10:01:59 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: Red Badger

Absolutely.

What we need is a Manhattan Project-style push—not just for rare earths, but for AI, quantum computing, and other critical tech sectors.

But unlike a one-time weapons breakthrough, this will require redesigning some tech ecosystems—like AI—to include domestic manufacturing, while building others, like quantum and rare earth supply chains, from the ground up. It’s going to take bold coordination, sweeping deregulation, and serious strategic investment. The U.S. can win this cold war—but only if it acts now, not a decade from now.

Elon Musk, pick up the white courtesy phone.


19 posted on 04/23/2025 10:15:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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“I certainly hope, as the administration is working through this critical area—no pun intended, it’s a critical area—they realize there’s this vulnerability gap, a four to five year gap, no matter how you look at it, in terms of ramping up domestic production,” Sanderson said.

I'd bet half to two thirds of that gap is regulatory.

20 posted on 04/23/2025 10:19:13 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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