Posted on 04/11/2025 3:45:37 AM PDT by davikkm
Don’t kid yourself, there are a lot of fools on Free Republic. Being foolish and ignorant is not a trait that is unique to those who subscribe to left wing ideology.
a) nationally negotiated rates to bring down costs;
b) restrictions on malpractice lawsuits so we stop using the legal system as a backstop disability insurance system
c) health insurance continues while receiving unemployment
d) mandatory insurance purchases for everyone, so the insurance pool is as big as possible;
This is basically what Germany does. They also have issues with rising costs but their costs are 1/6 to 1/10 ours. It's not a "socialist" scheme: it's still fee for service, but providers, insurers and the gov all negotiate reimbursement rates.
I have health insurance. Rarely use it. In fact haven’t in over 10 years. Last time I thought I broke my foot. Xray negative so they sent me to MRI. $3,000 bucks. Insurance paid 600 and hospital took it. If they charged individuals what insurance would pay I wouldn’t need insurance.
Changed jobs and I had to get individual insurance. Without for 4 years(saved over 33,000 in premiums) United health care wanted to know who my Primary Physician was. Called him. They said “office says they haven’t seen you in 15 years!” Denied me. I told them, what’s the problem? I’m not gonna cost you any money. So eventually they approved me. At a cost of 700 mo. Would still not have insurance if I hadn’t gotten married. And would have saved another 33,000 in premiums. Oh well....
I have health insurance. Rarely use it. In fact haven’t in over 10 years. Last time I thought I broke my foot. Xray negative so they sent me to MRI. $3,000 bucks. Insurance paid 600 and hospital took it. If they charged individuals what insurance would pay I wouldn’t need insurance.
Changed jobs and I had to get individual insurance. Without for 4 years(saved over 33,000 in premiums) United health care wanted to know who my Primary Physician was. Called him. They said “office says they haven’t seen you in 15 years!” Denied me. I told them, what’s the problem? I’m not gonna cost you any money. So eventually they approved me. At a cost of 700 mo. Would still not have insurance if I hadn’t gotten married. And would have saved another 33,000 in premiums. Oh well....
I agree with you. It saddens me that it is now a controversial one.
fabulous! My husband and I still work and we do all the yard work and indoor renovations. I thank god everyday for our health.
The problem is third party pay. It provides the curtain behind which all of the non-medical theft occurs. Get rid of insurance and prices would drop considerably.
Question I noticed after clicking on the website -
WHY does the author have no last name?!
Here’s the list of 33 if you don’t want to click in...
33 Shocking Facts That Prove That The Entire U.S. Healthcare Industry Has Become One Giant Money Making Scam
April 10, 2025 9:12 pm by Alex
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by Michael
The goal of the healthcare industry in the United States is to take as much money away from you as possible. I truly wish that I was exaggerating, but I am not. Can you guess which nation spends the highest percentage of GDP on healthcare? Without looking it up, you probably already know that it is us. Gigantic pharmaceutical corporations and massively bloated health insurance companies are raking in colossal mountains of cash, and yet the quality of the healthcare that we receive in return is rather quite poor. People living in Albania, Panama and Kuwait have higher life expectancy rates than we do. Residents of Belarus, Cuba and Latvia have lower infant mortality rates than we do. We are the most medicated population on the planet and yet we are also one of the sickest. If the U.S. healthcare system was a country, it would have the 6th largest economy on the entire globe and yet rates of cancer, heart disease and diabetes continue to soar.
The numbers that I am about to share with you are absolutely stunning. For as much money as we spend on healthcare, we should have the greatest system in the world by a wide margin.
But we don’t.
We have lost our way, and I don’t know if we will ever be able to find our way back.
At this stage, our healthcare system is completely and utterly dominated by immensely powerful money making institutions, and those institutions pour vast amounts of money into political campaigns in order to make sure that there will never be any serious reforms.
There are literally trillions of dollars pouring through our healthcare system. Those that are becoming exceedingly wealthy from this system will do whatever it takes to protect it.
So it is dangerous to even write an article like this.
Pharmaceutical corporations aren’t in the business of saving lives. What they want is for you to take their pills for as long as possible, and they want the profit margins on those pills to be as large as they can get away with.
Health insurance companies are more profitable when they provide less healthcare. Every year health insurance premiums go even higher, but when it comes time to pay out, health insurance executives will deploy their “delay, deny and defend” tactics. They will search high and low for any potential reason that will allow them to deny a claim.
But of course most Americans feel that they must have health insurance because of how absurdly high medical bills have become. Many hospitals have adopted a policy of charging “whatever they can get away with”, knowing that the vast majority of their victims will never challenge their grossly inflated bills. If you have been hit with a hospital bill that is five or six figures, you know exactly what I am talking about.
The system is broken.
Everyone knows it.
But it never gets fixed.
The following are 33 shocking facts that prove that the entire U.S. healthcare industry has become one giant money making scam…
#1 The U.S. spends about 5 trillion dollars on healthcare each year.
#2 What the United States spends on healthcare is greater than the GDP of the United Kingdom.
#3 If the U.S. healthcare system was a country, it would be the 6th largest economy in the entire world.
#4 Federal, state and local governments account for nearly half of all healthcare spending in the United States.
#5 Today, more than 68 million Americans are enrolled in Medicare.
#6 If you can believe it, more than 71 million Americans are enrolled in Medicaid.
#7 Does it seem like almost half of the commercials on television are for pharmaceutical drugs? You may not be surprised to learn that pharmaceutical companies actually spend more than 15 billion dollars on television advertising in the United States each year.
#8 According to one survey, 61 percent of U.S. adults are currently taking at least one pharmaceutical drug.
#9 Globally, the pharmaceutical industry brings in about 1.6 trillion dollars in revenue each year. That is more money than the Pentagon spends.
10 There are 10 pharmaceutical industry executives that received total compensation of at least 20 million dollars in 2023.
#11 According to the CDC, 1.5 million people a year are rushed to emergency rooms in the United States because of adverse reactions to pharmaceutical drugs. 600,000 of those people are age 65 or older.
#12 On average, more than 1,200 pharmaceutical drugs are recalled by the FDA each year.
#13 In 2023, the six largest health insurance companies in the United States had combined revenues of almost 1.1 trillion dollars. That is also more money than the Pentagon spends.
#14 The profits of health insurance companies in the U.S. increased by 287 percent in a 10 year period.
#15 On average, annual health insurance premiums for family coverage have reached a total of $25,572 per year.
#16 In 2023, the CEOs of the five largest health insurance companies in the U.S. brought home approximately 75 million dollars in total compensation.
#17 The CEO of UnitedHealth Group, Andrew Witty, received a total of 23.5 million dollars in compensation in 2023.
#18 One survey found that 18 percent of all insured adults in the U.S. have had a health insurance claim denied just within the past year.
#19 More than 27 million Americans do not even have health insurance.
#20 Why are c-sections on the rise? It is because a vaginal delivery costs approximately $12,235 on average, while a c-section costs approximately $17,004 on average.
#21 The infant mortality rate in the United States is nearly three times as high as it is in Singapore.
#22 According to the CFPB, approximately 100 million Americans are in medical debt right now.
#23 Even though the vast majority of the population is covered by health insurance, 62 percent of the two million personal bankruptcies that are filed each year in the United States are caused by medical debt.
#24 One survey found that U.S. households have piled up more than 220 billion dollars in medical debt.
#25 A three day stay in the hospital will typically cost you somewhere around $30,000.
#26 Americans spend more than 200 billion dollars treating cancer each year.
#27 According to the CDC, heart disease costs this country more than 250 billion dollars each year.
#28 According to the NIH, diabetes costs this country more than 400 billion dollars each year.
#29 A 25-year-old mother in Nevada was handed a bill for $700,000 after her baby daughter spent about two months in the neonatal intensive care unit.
#30 One study found that hospitals overcharge Americans “by as much as 18 times over their costs”.
#31 78 percent of U.S. adults have avoided hospital visits because they cost so much.
#32 Hospital profits have risen by more than 400 percent since 1999.
#33 A study that was conducted a few years ago determined that more than 90 percent of all hospital bills contain errors that can result in “overcharges, unnecessary costs, and insurance claim denials”.
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***Cardiovascular (not enough exercise)***
I was talked into weight lifting back in 1990. I blew a mitral valve and had open heart surgery with a mechanical valve replacement. Now on warfarin. No more exercise for me. “Ah have lu-n-n-ed mah lesson!”
True, but your doctor encourages you to go nuts on carbs which leads to lack of energy to exercise and damages arteries in itself.
When I stopped following my doctors’ advice on diet and stopped taking all the useless prescriptions they were putting me on I stopped needing their services so often.
Stupid doctors with no critical thinking skills or skepticism are big pharma’s frontline salesmen.
A few years ago I had surgery for a broken elbow. The bill for the outpatient surgery was some $15,000. My insurance company paid a little over $9,000 which the hospital accepted as payment in full. I find it hard to believe that the hospital just wrote off some $6,000 if their actual cost was $15,000. So what was the actual cost of the procedure? It’s anybody’s guess.
I will pop open a cold one and toast your good health! Chicken Caesar salad tonight with some garlic bread. Yum.
Remember, “health insurance issues” as you put it isn’t like “car insurance issues” or “home insurance issues”... it’s life or death. People die because they were denied tests or treatment that were deemed “experimental,” even though they’ve been standard practice for 20 years. People are bankrupted by a visit that was “out of network” because that’s where the ambulance took them. This is serious.
Agreed those are serious issues.
The issue isn’t whether these are serious or life or death. The issue here was whether this excuses murder of corporate executives.
Some excuse or even applaud the murder by that Mangione guy.
I will shock some, and say that I am against murder of Healthcare executives. Have at it if you disagree with such a viewpoint.
Sure. Well... I'm against it in that I think anyone who does it should go on trial, be found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity, be sentenced to 2-3 years in a mental institution, treated, declared healed, and let go, and... probably should not get their right to bear arms back.
Members of Congress don’t know much, but they can count votes like a pimp in a whorehouse can count money.
Yes, the voters “hate Obamacare and want it repealed”. That is absolutely true.
It’s also true that they want the ability to buy insurance for pre-existing conditions, want insurance companies to be forbidden to cancel policies for non-payment, want zero payment at the point of service, want their adult children who are smoking meth in a dive in Oakland to stay covered when they overdose, want their States to expand Medicaid without taxes going up, and so on.
In other words, the only two things they hate about Obamacare are paying for it, and the name.
Republicans in Congress understand this perfectly well, which is why there’s no plan.
And, not coincidentally, Obamacare (and Romneycare) were the culmination of fifty years of “reform”, all of which had the purpose of destroying the private sector or making it impossible for the private sector to function, except for boob jobs and a few other things. And, by 2009, the mission was largely accomplished.
Obamacare was merely a temporary mop-up operation, until full nationalization was possible.
And now, it is.
The goal should be to use natural remedies to avoid taking prescription drugs of any kind.
And I to yours. My wine is chilling.
"Proof" requires evidence disproving all possibilities to the contrary.
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