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Mass teacher layoffs are reshaping America’s education system
Citizen Watch Report ^ | Alex

Posted on 03/15/2025 6:21:49 AM PDT by davikkm

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To: Maine Mariner

> How many coordinators, deputy administrators, assistant administrators, and deputy assistant administrators are being laid off? <

Retired urban high school teacher here. The folks on your list are bad enough. But the worst ones are the “curriculum specialists”. Their mission is to push the latest teaching fads on the school district.

And these fads change every couple years.

Teach this way, or you’ll be fired.
Oh, wait. Forget that way.
Teach this new way, or be fired.

On and on it goes.

Meanwhile, the biggest obstacle to learning is the chronically disruptive student. Just one can ruin an entire class. Removing such a student is next to impossible these days.


41 posted on 03/15/2025 6:56:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: davikkm

Baloney. The DOE doesn’t “teach” anything. Except corruption. They are bureaucrats, paper pushers, bad idea generators. This tells me that CWR is bogus.


42 posted on 03/15/2025 6:57:24 AM PDT by rootntootn (Until order is restored, there will be none.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I imagine there are school systems out there drunk on federal money paying teachers out of it. So less federal money the firing some teachers. They blame there is on state & county school systems being irresponsible.


43 posted on 03/15/2025 6:58:39 AM PDT by Reily (a)
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To: AppyPappy

Yep. I know lots of them.


44 posted on 03/15/2025 6:59:09 AM PDT by ComputerGuy ( )
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To: davikkm

“These are real teachers, real students, and real families being affected by decisions that will reshape the future of education in America.”


There is an axiom in bad behavior psychology (which also translates to poor institutional performance):

You must admit the problem in order to fix it. Take responsibility.

These asshats tick all the marks for intransigence and ‘more of the same’ with their DOUBLE failure - failing their jobs and then failing to acknowledge said failure - which translates now to forcible change.

Kudos, DJT.


45 posted on 03/15/2025 7:01:07 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: davikkm

When money is abundant and easy, any damn fool can manage a school, business or govt.

When money gets tight, there is a demand for good managers/decision makers.


46 posted on 03/15/2025 7:02:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: davikkm

For whatever reason, I was looking at my old elementary school’s website the other day. The student body was it seemed around the same as when I attended, 35,000 years ago, and the same number of teachers. Interestingly, there was about an equal number of employees called ‘paraeducators’, what I gather is a tearcher’s aide of some kind. I don’t know why they are necessary, but apparently they are. Perhaps behavior issues are out of control, and they just need the in-room help to keep things from totally disintegrating. Don’t know what to make of it, but I found it interesting. Also, FWIW, all the administers (and there are more of them now) are women. Things have changed.


47 posted on 03/15/2025 7:04:28 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: Bob434; All

The left has been driving education performance toward some demographic average equivalence for decades. End result driving performance downward. Letting merit occur and performance seek its own level would be racism.


48 posted on 03/15/2025 7:05:07 AM PDT by Reily (a)
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To: Leaning Right

Yes “curriculum specialists,” I know of what you speak.
I put them in the coordinators group-some years ago I read of the position in the Fargo ND school board notes-coordinators and I think some of them were curriculum coordinators.

Fads in teaching-certainly in math. No wonder our kids have difficulty with the subject. From 8th grade on all math courses should be taught by someone who has and undergraduate degree in mathematics NOT a degree in education with a couple of college level math education courses.


49 posted on 03/15/2025 7:10:36 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: 9YearLurker

Moving public school kids to private schools only moves public school problems to private schools.

Look at the ESA’s in Iowa for examples.


50 posted on 03/15/2025 7:12:09 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: davikkm

Teachers....or administration.
Our school system seemed to have lots of aides


51 posted on 03/15/2025 7:12:17 AM PDT by South Dakota (Vance / Trump...2028 )
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To: redgolum

If the funding follows the students, so does the government control.


52 posted on 03/15/2025 7:15:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ChildOfThe60s

And students who have difficulty with other majors, especially STEM majors switch to education.


53 posted on 03/15/2025 7:17:14 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: davikkm

Always lay off the teachers first — “Fire for effect” when the effect you want is outraged taxpayers and parents.

They could always axe 95% of their “administrators” and get back to the number they had 40 years ago. But, no, that’s never discussed.


54 posted on 03/15/2025 7:20:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole)
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To: davikkm

I’m never going to get tired of winning.


55 posted on 03/15/2025 7:21:02 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: Maine Mariner

I did graduate work in Agricultural education. Almost all masters and doctorial dissertations were on how important ag education was.

We had a $250,000 curriculum grant. sounded good about integrating agriculture in all levels of education.

I finally went in the head of the dept and said, “either this is bullshit or I don’t know what is going on”.

He said, “what are you going to do about it?”

I left sans degree.


56 posted on 03/15/2025 7:21:12 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: davikkm

If those things are so important to Massachusetts, then why doesn’t MASSACHUSETTS pay for them?


57 posted on 03/15/2025 7:21:48 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Democrats who say ‘no one is above the law’ won’t mind going to prison for the money they stole)
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To: Maine Mariner

> From 8th grade on all math courses should be taught by someone who has and undergraduate degree in mathematics NOT a degree in education <

Totally agree. If it were up to me, I’d also abolish every university school of education. Those degrees are actually counter-productive.

So if you want to teach, get a degree in your subject matter. Then apprentice for a year with a master teacher. That’s where you’ll learn how to teach.


58 posted on 03/15/2025 7:21:56 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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To: Leaning Right

So if you want to teach, get a degree in your subject matter. Then apprentice for a year with a master teacher. That’s where you’ll learn how to teach.
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these days, you need the teaching cert but don’t need to know your subject matter.

But we may be in the start of some change.


59 posted on 03/15/2025 7:24:23 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: davikkm

Get back to reading, writing and arithmetic.


60 posted on 03/15/2025 7:25:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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