Posted on 01/14/2025 10:52:19 AM PST by Red Badger
BIGOT. HOMOPHOBE. RACIST. TRANSPHOBE. HOMELESSPHOBE. ISLAMAPHOB. RREEEEEEEEEE
We all know it is the bad orangeman’s fault and global warming. I’ll even go so far as to blame the same weather machine that Dick Cheney and GW Bush used to steer hurricane Katrina in to New Orleans. Any criticism of the brilliant hard working supremely qualified leaders of California and Los Angeles is misinformation...
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Good point. The fire supposedly happen near a well known hiking trail at 10:15 AM. A week before an 8 acre fire was put out during the early morning hours of new year's day. The fire was close enough to a residential area or access road that fire fighting crews eventually got a hose on the fire after big time water drops by helicopters. I am leaning towards a home owner in the area shot off some larger fireworks on the 1st of Jan. The fire smoldered after being put out but reignited after the winds picked up bigly. Time will tell...
“Do homeless cook with open flames etc?”
Yes, of course, they do anything they want.
lots of speculation, somebody did something... I think it’s a stretch to say there was embers from a week before, I know they would have made sure there were no hot spots before they left. Thisis NOT the type of neighborhood you walk in either, every street is a steep hill, if there were any houses left, somebody would have cars on their ring cameras. Palisades dr is the only way in or out all the way to sunset.
I was just checking the map of burned homes, looks like No houses in the Highlands burned, It had to start at the south end of Piedra Morada and I have customers on that street, actually all over the palisades, probably lost 200 customers from this. A whole lot of these people have second and third homes though.
Ditto that. I am a flat lander that spent some time in coastal LA. It is a real chore to haul your ass up steep roadways let alone hiking trials. If there aren't any reports of constant break-ins, I think it safe to rule out homeless encampments.
I consider the term deceptive, because it implies these people would have some idea of how to live in a home if they had one. My son has had to deal with them in law enforcement and discovered that mental illness and drugs has caused many to descend into such a feral state that anything resembling our homes would be inappropriate.
This could be a repeat of the Oakland Hills fire. The fire reignited a day later and torched parts of Oakland. I’ve seen a few articles that suggest ignition days later are possible. If the fire gets hot enough, the fire may work it’s way in to the roots of plants and the surrounding soil.
Doesnt matter. All one has to do is get over grass or whatever when its that dry and the heat from even the exaust pipe or engine will ignite a fire.
That is why they tell people when lower levels of fire caution is in effect to NOT, park in grassy/trashy areas.
Havent heard.
Were those areas closed off to any and all recreational activities?
If not. Then thats another serious failure. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY, should have been allowed on ANY trails around there. Only authorized people should have been allowed. And those MUST, carry required hand fire fighting tools...such as water pump packs, etc.
On the weather channel the fires were blamed on ....”CLIMATE CHANGE, CLIMATE CHANGE! CLIMATE CHANGE!” like two parrots repeating it over and over again.
Ok, so what i understand is that the trails were still open for at least hikers. Which is an absolute failure in level 5 fire classification.
When fire risk is at even level 4, restrictions are in place. Like no smoking outside, nothing that might cause even an accidental fire, etc.
Level 5 is extreme fire conditions. The whole thing gets shut down. Nothing is allowed and even authorized vehicles are really cringed upon.
No hiking, no smoking even sometimes within vehicles driving even outside of the forest boundries. Sometimes they even shut down blacktop county roads through forests. No horse riding, nothing is allowed.
So, this was a complete and utter failure by the authorities if they allowed human access during a level 5 extreme fire condition.
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