Posted on 01/01/2025 4:41:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
SS, Medicare, Medicaid and all welfare programs need to be phased out.
They’re nothing but social programs that can never be fully funded because it’s a ponzi type scheme the government is incapable of handling.
I could have done much better investing my SS tax then the government did... Keep the company match but only if you invest. You don’t invest you pay the price and are not my problem.
Medical care is not a right. You want it pay for it or get insurance although insurance is a major problem for the high cost. Drs charge insurance $1000.00 for a procedure but accept the $150 insurance pays out. Think about that.
And I said PHASED OUT not stopped immediately for those who want to argue otherwise.
Like switching to Geico, the government can save 15% by switching to H1B workers.
“So is Musk’s plan to fire US government workers and replace them with cheaper H1-Bs to save money?”
I would say put every administrative office up for bid to the private sector. Just like how we have civilian contractors to the military and other agencies. Let those companies who bid hire back whoever they think can be useful on the contract and reject the rest. Then every year, use attrition to get to the correct level of support. Companies will want to maintain their highest margins so they will improve on processes and use work force reduction as a means to get there.
This is nothing new.
Really? Even imported H-1B visa workers? SCREW that let our AMERICAN kids have those jobs.
So you are agreeing that even more US citizens are to be tgrown out into the streets and replaced br foreigners.
Interdasting.
30%? Do it like Argentina’s 80%.
RE: SS, Medicare, Medicaid and all welfare programs need to be phased out.
It isn’t accurate to call them welfare. Those are MONEY TAKEN FROM A PERSON’s EARNINGS THAT THE PERSON HAS ALREADY PAID FOR.
If you want to reform it, yes, by all means. But it’s not welfare ( as in, an illegal coming to the USA receiving money for living expenses ).
It’s welfare because what you paid in, at least for the majority of the people is far less than what you get back which is a definition of welfare: Financial or other aid provided, especially by the government, to people in need.
A male earning the average wage throughout his working life who retires in 2010 paid $55,000 into the Medicare trust fund, but is likely to receive $161,000 worth of Medicare benefits, the Urban Institute found. Far more now.
Medicare is available to people who are 65 years old or older, regardless of their work history.
In contrast, he pays $290,000 in Social Security taxes throughout his career and collects $256,000 in retirement payments if he retires at the full benefit age... sounds good but you’ve received a $106k more in medicare than you paid in.
Social Security benefits are based on the amount of income you earned during your working life.... except.. a non-working spouse who has never paid into social security can still collect benefits under current law thanks to the spousal benefits option.
15 cents of every SS dollar goes to SSDI
SSI is not tied to a recipient’s work history. You can receive SSI if you never have worked or paid Social Security taxes. But your income and other financial resources, such as bank accounts and property, must not exceed strict caps.
In 2024, the maximum federal SSI payment is $943 a month for an individual and $1,415 a month for a couple receiving SSI jointly.
RE: It’s welfare because what you paid in, at least for the majority of the people is far less than what you get back which is a definition of welfare
Let’s agree on some things. If you live a healthy life after you become eligible for Medicare and seldom use the benefit and then died suddenly, then it isn’t welfare to you.
And how is it welfare if you are COERCED to pay into it?
It’s like saying — YOU *WILL* RECEIVE WELFARE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT AND IF YOU DON’T, YOU GO TO JAIL.
RE: In contrast, he pays $290,000 in Social Security taxes throughout his career and collects $256,000 in retirement payments if he retires at the full benefit age
Yes, but what if he dies before he recieves the $290,000 he paid in? Is it still his welfare?
I never said anything about H1-B workers taking anyone’s job. Especially since many of these jobs require security clearances.
Where is the 100 billion categorized that we sent to Ukraine, and the millions to forgive college loans, and the trillion to pay people not to work during covid?
No the government keeps it.
SS is a scam... If you live a long life then you may make out IF it doesn’t go bust before you die which is where it’s headed.
The government should provide not funding for anything except defense of the country and should collect no taxes outside of that.
Congress should be NO PAY whatsoever, should be voluntary and only needs to be in session a couple weeks a year to pass a defense budget. We don’t need anymore laws period. What we need is a DOGE to get rid of the majority of laws on the books.
Don’t wanna do that.
Two words: Baseline budgeting.
Do away with baseline budgeting, then gut the bureaucracy.
Devolve most of it back to the states.
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