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The party of the working class?
Gateway Pundit ^ | Nov.7, 2024 | Mike LaChance

Posted on 11/08/2024 8:48:42 AM PST by 13Sisters76

You want some hard truths about the democrat party? Well, allow me to give you some. I am a historian, and I have the paperwork to prove it and I have been involved with politics since I worked on Reagan's first campaign. I know the democrat party's history- pretty interesting stuff when you get into it. The democrat party has ALWAYS been the party of the wealthy elite- the plantation owners with their feudalistic, two tier caste system and slavery. They were willing to kill 300k o their own citizens and 340k of OURS to hold on to it with the Civil War, and one of their politicians even tried to beat a republican senator, Chas. Sumner, to death on the Senate floor. Know what democrats did? Sent more canes to Preston Brooks with "Hit him again!" engraved on them. Even after they lost, they STILL tried to hold on to control with the KKK, Jim Crow and segregation, fought the civil rights laws with days-long filibusters- the filibuster they are now trying to kill- and fought to keep "segregation now, segregation forever". Beginning about 1860 and until now, a brand new European ideology made its way to this country and was fully embraced by the leftists HERE and in the democrat party- socialism. The democrats had found a brand new home! Marx wrote that with the use of "useful idiots" this ideology could be presented to the gullible working class as a benefit to them. Alinsky would write the same thing 100 years later. The "continental" democrats would elevate the absolute worst people who ever lived to icon status, people like Havelock Ellis, Margaret Sanger, Lothrop Stoddard and Alfred Kinsey. Woodrow Wilson was elected by these people as president. Perverts and anti-Semites, rabid racists and segregationists. These people are still admired by today's democrats as "great thinkers". This has led to the democrat mindset that government should only be run by those "fit to rule" as Hillary has said and never by the people- those unfit human weeds. They relied on the likes of John Dewey, to destroy our education system and turn it into an indoctrination system. As Dewey famously said: "You can't make a good socialist out of an individual". This party has NEVER been the party of the working class except as rhetoric, never been the party for minorities, has NEVER been the party of the family and hates Christian conservatives far above anything else. They feel nothing but contempt for the middle class, and you know why? Because the working middle class is the economic engine of liberty- the one thing they want to destroy. They are the party they have always been, the party of the wealthy elites. They are better than you and smarter than you. They believe that fact that they are richer than you proves it. And NOW, bigger and older money has moved in and taken full ownership of the party, the wealthy foreign globalists. One way or another, they intend to control this country and YOU, "you will own nothing and you will be happy". They own the corporate media who lies to you, hires smear merchants and creates hysterical hoaxes- what do you mean you don't believe it? How dare you! They steal elections, in your face, and defy you to do anything about it, something they have been perfecting since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall. They have twisted our judicial system and our policing agencies until we can't trust them anymore. They hold political prisoners in what have become gulags, denying them their Constitutional rights along the way. They created agencies with unaccountable bureaucrats to oppress American citizens and with the express purpose of making end runs around the Constitution. Even before Obama, they embedded democrat operatives in every agency to see that Americans have NO voice in their regulations and rules and to block every initiative by our elected officials to rein in this threat. The party of the working class? Absolutely not and never has been.


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To: joshua c

The poster has made a specious claim. There were actually no northern “power brokers” and the few “investors” one can find are very limited and mostly from IL., although one does stand out- Chief Justice John Marshall did fund the some of the southern slave traders, but he was a Virginian and prob did so to increase his influence. A true politician.
(Marshall, interestingly, was responsible for the Marbury decision, which allowed the SC to jump its Constitutional limitations re: jurisdiction, and lets them decide which cases are within their purview. Cultural “change agents” have used this to its full extent, i.e. Roe)
ALL the financial gain was held by the sellers and owners of slaves, one of the biggest plantation owners was a black man named Anthony Johnson, but his wealth didn’t come just from his plantation’s crop yields- they came from his practice of “breeding” his slaves for sale.
The determination to hold on to this wealth was one of the biggest factors in the Civil War.


21 posted on 11/10/2024 8:12:30 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: 13Sisters76
Ah. I’m very happy when you people expose yourselves. It makes my work that much easier and tells others who to ignore.

Did you perhaps have a fact you wished to dispute, or did you just want to denounce what I said in a snarky manner?

22 posted on 11/10/2024 8:16:16 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 13Sisters76

That’s a good article, but formatting is your friend.


23 posted on 11/10/2024 8:17:18 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: Tired of Taxes
I don’t see any insinuations or implications, either. I see a metaphor. Sumner was beaten over a metaphor.

It's a metaphor until you are on the receiving end of it. Having slavery as your "mistress" is a very strong implication that you are being accused of diddling your slaves.

24 posted on 11/10/2024 8:20:14 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I read Sumner's speech. *I* would have beaten the sh*t out of him too, if he had said such things about one of my relatives.

I read it too. I was told it was obscene but I didn't find any obscenities.

Dang Confederacrats. I'm glad my Southern ancestors fought for the Union!

25 posted on 11/10/2024 8:22:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Sumner did not deserve to be beaten or even punched. Brooks and Keitt (both Democrats) should have been thrown into prison for the attack. It was not justifiable in any way.

Disagree completely. The man was running his mouth talking sh*t about an elderly member of the Senate, and he should have had his teeth punched out.

What was he hoping to accomplish by demonizing someone who disagreed with his beliefs?

A lot of modern problems would be less of a problem if obnoxious people hurling insults got their mouth punched.

26 posted on 11/10/2024 8:22:28 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 13Sisters76
Some recent news from the economic wasteland that is NYS...

Thousands of New York government workers received a pay raise on Thursday More than 2,100 current state employees across 46 agencies will be impacted by the change.

It's good to be Deep State...

The above news comes a few days after this announcement...

Nothing short of a betrayal': Union blasts Sumitomo Rubber after abrupt closure, loss of 1,550 jobs in Tonawanda Sumitomo makes automotive tires for passenger cars, trucks, buses and motorcycles. Production at the Tonawanda facility has already been halted.

27 posted on 11/10/2024 8:24:04 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Thank you.


28 posted on 11/10/2024 8:29:48 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: 13Sisters76
The poster has made a specious claim. There were actually no northern “power brokers” and the few “investors” one can find are very limited and mostly from IL., although one does stand out- Chief Justice John Marshall did fund the some of the southern slave traders, but he was a Virginian and prob did so to increase his influence. A true politician.

The North controlled completely all of the Southern cotton trade with Europe. You probably didn't know that.

The Navigation act of 1817 gave the Northern shipping industry a virtual monopoly on all Southern trade with Europe, and they set their prices such that it was just below the cost of paying all the fines and penalties for violating the navigation act of 1817.

Because of the law, they had a captive market, and they could charge what they wanted, and of course they maximized their own profits.

Additionally, most of the money collected in tariffs, (72% of which was the result of Southern exports to Europe) was spent to subsidize Northern industries, as well as to build Northern infrastructure, such as canals and railroads.

The determination to hold on to this wealth was one of the biggest factors in the Civil War.

The Wealth was all in the North my dear. 4 to 5 times the population, and virtually all the control over shipping, banking, insurance, warehousing, and the congress.

Did it never occur to you to think it odd when the Northern controlled congress voted in March of 1861 for a constitutional amendment to make slavery permanent in the United States?

Why would a supposedly anti-slavery party like the Republicans vote *FOR* a pro-slavery amendment?

Well because they were more concerned about the continuation of that money stream than they were about any moral concerns over slavery.

You've been indoctrinated in the usual history. You will find lots of support swimming with the stream, but not so much if you swim against it.

29 posted on 11/10/2024 8:30:57 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

That so? Well, maybe we should take a walk thru Congress and take a cane to Pelosi?, McConnell? Schiff? Raskin?
I don’t think so.’
We have gotten too blase about ugly language from politicians and their various supporters, and too accepting of violent actions against an opponent. Hell, we don’t even know how to couch our insults in flowery rhetoric anymore.


30 posted on 11/10/2024 8:31:36 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And we certainly know that plantation owners never slept with their property, right?
Right.
To be doing something and have someone call you out on it is something we refer to as “speaking truth to power”. It is NOT a reason to beat anyone half to death.
It should have landed Brooks in prison, but it proves that “justice for me, but not for thee” was as rampant then as now.


31 posted on 11/10/2024 8:36:31 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I read it too. I was told it was obscene but I didn't find any obscenities.

I think that is an "eye of the beholder" thing. Certainly if you understood it to imply Butler was having sex with slaves, you would have considered it obscene in that era.

Dang Confederacrats. I'm glad my Southern ancestors fought for the Union!

What exactly was it that the confederates did that you object to?

And my family wasn't here in the 1860s, we were still living in Europe. My grandfather came over in the 1900s, and none of them settled in any of the Confederate states.

That's why I can see things objectively. I don't have ancestors that I feel I need to defend, or neighbors that I have to worry about not offending.

32 posted on 11/10/2024 8:36:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

No, they did not. The northern leaders in DC tried to tax them heavily, but did NOT control them.


33 posted on 11/10/2024 8:39:43 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Thank you.

You are welcome. A lot of people are just indoctrinated, and dissonant parts of history are kept away from them so as not to "confuse" them about what really happened.

For example, until a few years ago, I had no idea that the North was making more money from slavery than the South was.

Didn't know that.

Also didn't know the North attacked first during the Fort Sumter incident.

Didn't know the Republicans voted to make slavery permanent in March of 1861.

There are a lot of things they didn't teach us in history class. They didn't teach them because they undermine the story of what they did teach.

34 posted on 11/10/2024 8:41:47 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 13Sisters76
That so? Well, maybe we should take a walk thru Congress and take a cane to Pelosi?, McConnell? Schiff? Raskin?

You want me to disagree? I think that is a splendid idea.

We have gotten too blase about ugly language from politicians and their various supporters, and too accepting of violent actions against an opponent.

We've become accepting of violence against our side, but nobody seems to want to give it back to the other side.

Hell, we don’t even know how to couch our insults in flowery rhetoric anymore.

I have long thought that the people of the past were more intelligent. At the very least, they could write more eloquently than people nowadays.

Perhaps there is something to the claim that Florine in the water makes you dumber. (Saw a recent article on that.)

35 posted on 11/10/2024 8:45:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Will you “instructors” give me a break!
I am a nearly 74 yo retired educator who has done a lifetime of work with pen and paper and typewriter-hunting-and-pecking.
And at this age, I am NOT going to take the time to update my tech skills.


36 posted on 11/10/2024 8:45:44 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ll stick with snark. And it’s all you get when you choose to be insulting. So, go away and chew on some other pant leg.


37 posted on 11/10/2024 8:47:57 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: 13Sisters76
And we certainly know that plantation owners never slept with their property, right?

Well certainly they did, but whether this particular one did cannot be discerned from an accusation, can it?

And even were the implied accusation true, it was still the sort of insult that would get a man killed in that era. Andrew Jackson would have simply shot the man for saying such a thing about him.

To be doing something and have someone call you out on it is something we refer to as “speaking truth to power”.

Well I think his speech can be summarized as "I hate slavery and I think people who support it are poopy heads."

Making it personal is where he went wrong. You make it personal, and people will take it personally.

It is NOT a reason to beat anyone half to death.

Sumner's friends knew very well what he was saying had the potential to get him killed. Sumner likely knew as well, but foolishly decided to keep spouting off his hatred and vitriol.

He f***ed around and found out.

It should have landed Brooks in prison, but it proves that “justice for me, but not for thee” was as rampant then as now.

Different era. People took besmirchment of their honor seriously back then. I doubt a DC court of that time period would have convicted Brooks.

38 posted on 11/10/2024 8:53:07 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 13Sisters76
No, they did not. The northern leaders in DC tried to tax them heavily, but did NOT control them.

Not just tax them, but also force them to pay the Northern industries to handle all their goods, from shipping, to banking, to insurance, to warehousing, and all handling of the money.

The North was getting 60% of all the revenue produced by slavery in the South. They were making more money from slavery than the plantations were!

And controlling a man's money is the biggest part of controlling a man.

39 posted on 11/10/2024 8:57:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 13Sisters76
I’ll stick with snark. And it’s all you get when you choose to be insulting. So, go away and chew on some other pant leg.

And I was having such fun with yours. :)

40 posted on 11/10/2024 8:59:31 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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