“They aren’t crazed leftists, just old style Dems that will never see the light.”
The fact that they will never see the light makes them crazed leftists.
That's right because there are former leftists/dems who HAVE seen the light and were willing to change their minds.
Think, Elon Musk, RFK Jr; Tulsi Gabbard.......
I have immediate family members who *HATE* Trump with a burning passion. A friend and I got into a discussion around one of them and not even mentioning Trump but just the situation in Israel, IIRC, got the iciest stare and demeanor from that person.
Fortunately that person lives in another state hours away and we only see once or twice a year.
So I'm cutting ties slowly and gradually.
Unless there's another death in the family, I think those relationships are going to be history. Kind of sad, actually, that family makes politics such an issue, but that's not my call.