Posted on 10/13/2024 12:46:41 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
Barry Goldwater was of Jewish descent on his father's side only. So the first Jew to be nominated for President by a major party was Episcopalian.
Not really surprising. As you can see from a couple of the posters are this thread, the idea of Columbus being anything but a faithful Catholic is met with a lot of hostility.
He and his family (and brothers) were plagued by Jewish rumors their entire lives. And it was both a matter of life and death and less drastic measures like not being allowed to hold political positions or being deprived of livelihood.
“ rule that you are Jewish only if your mother is Jewish was a later development.”
No, the genealogies were to establish tribe, priestly status, and royal line. The status of “Jew or not Jew” was, and is, maternal (or conversion).
The maternal rules are in both exodus and dueteronomy. They are most famously enforced by Ezra upon return from Babylonian captivity.
After the Israelites’ return to Jerusalem from the Babylonian exile, Ezra, a leader of the people, discovered that many Israelite men had married foreign women, including Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Jebusites, Ammonites, Moabites, Egyptians, and Amorites (Ezra 9:1-2). This intermarriage was seen as a threat to the purity of the Jewish community and a violation of God’s laws (Deuteronomy 7:1-5, 23:3-5).
In response, Ezra called a public assembly and condemned the intermarriage, declaring that it was a sin against God and a breach of covenant (Ezra 9:4-15). He urged the men to separate themselves from their foreign wives and children, citing the law of Moses (Exodus 34:15-16).
Those that did not were expelled and became the Samaritan people.
Looks like the leftists will hate him even more now.
5h3 Church actually had a fairly good record of defending Jews from the laity in the Middle Ages, save Inocent the Third
What I was told is that the rule about "if your mother is Jewish" was a response to women being raped by the Romans--so the father's identity might be unknown (and not Jewish), but the mother's identity was certain.
Joe Biden is fortunate that Deuteronomy 22.22 is no longer enforced.
The Samaritans are descended from members of the Ten Northern Tribes (the kingdom of Israel post-Solomon) who did not get carried into exile (along with some foreigners settled there by the Assyrians). Ezra was dealing with descendants of the tribe of Judah who had returned from exile.
Well, your personal interpretation of scripture disagree with the Prophet Ezra who expelled them.
And Jesus who expressly considered Samaritans gentiles.
And Catholic teaching.
And Jewish teaching.
Sorry, going with them on this one.
“ the maternal line mattered so much, why are so few mothers named”
For the reason previously stated that you did not read.
Have to agree to disagree.
Not true. Jews began coming to Spain after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 A.D. There are many graves that date from the 2nd Century. Paul the Apostle's Epistle to the Romans stated his intention to travel to Spain, due to established Jewish communities there in the mid-1st Century.
Josephus, in The Jewish War, records that Herod Antipas, son of Herod the Great and tetrarch of Galilee and Perea, was exiled by Emperor Caligula to Spain in 39 CE. The Jewish "Mishnah" records communication between Jews in Spain and Jerusalem.
It is true that another wave of Jews came in after the Muslims conquered Spain many centuries later. And When the Umayyad Caliphate of Cordoba fell apart in 1031 CE, many Jews fled to the newly conquered Christian territories in the north, including Spain.
Many people in New Mexico who are descendants of the original Spanis settlers have Jewish DNA. Did they escape the inquisition?
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/12/dna-reveals-the-hidden-jewish-ancestry-of-latin-americans/578509/
No reason? Oh, I think the expulsion of every Jew from Spain in 1492 was a pretty good reason.
It was no secret that Tomas Torquemada, Grand Inquisitor of the Spanish Inquisition, had Jewish heritage. Yet that did not prevent his rise to office.
And it was Torquemada who urged Ferdinand to expel the Jews.
Nor was Saint Teresa of Avila, also of Jewish heritage, prevented from rising in the Church. She was a sincere Catholic.
Columbus's background would also have been regarded as insignificant.
Yes, the Muslim invaders were expelled. And Jews had been close collaborators with the Muslims, ever since they opened the gates of Toledo to the Muslims in 711. So the Spaniards weren't feeling too kindly toward Jews or Muslims.
Even so, it was not uncommon for Jews, once they converted, to marry into Spanish nobility. None of them were expelled.
Baloney. It’s known as the Spanish Inquisition. The Jews were given the choice of either leaving the country (minus much value for their possessions) or being forced to convert via torture and death. Don’t try to pretty it up, that’s nonsense.
Huh. Ain’t that a thing.
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Baloney to you.
He was...Inquisitors minds want to know...
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