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CNN Sounds Alarm: Harris Is Doing 6 Points Worse in PA Polls than Biden in 2020
Rumble.com ^ | 12 October 2024 | Rumble

Posted on 10/12/2024 6:29:29 AM PDT by Sam77

CNN ANALYST: Democrats are very worried now. The face in PA, MI and WI has tightened severely. And Harris is doing about 6 points worse in the polls than Biden was in 2020.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2024; biden; kamala
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1 posted on 10/12/2024 6:29:29 AM PDT by Sam77
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To: Sam77

I don’t think this is a valid comparison. As pollsters have said recently, they have adjusted for the anti-Trump bias their polls had in 2020, and the polls today are unlikely to undercount Trump voters. So today’s polls are more likely to be reflective of the final outcome.


2 posted on 10/12/2024 6:33:01 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep

I still think that pro-Trump votes are going to be under-polled (or at least under-recognized) because there are a lot like me who, if called by a pollster, are going to tell them to FO ... and I will crawl over broken glass to cast my vote for Trump.


3 posted on 10/12/2024 6:35:34 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Send more pagers to the Middle East - "From the Liver to the Knee".)
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To: Sam77
Newt Gingrich claims Biden wants Harris to lose because he and Dr. Jill want Biden to be the only person to have defeated (through election fraud) Trump.
4 posted on 10/12/2024 6:36:03 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: nwrep

Comparing how Harris is currently polling to how Biden ran in 2020 is not a valid comparison?


5 posted on 10/12/2024 6:36:33 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Carl Vehse

Yeah, I don’t know what they’re worried about, Biden was a superstar; He got the most votes of anyone in recorded history. How can they expect Kamel to match that?


6 posted on 10/12/2024 6:38:11 AM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: Sam77

Now that Election Day is approaching you will see all these polls shifting to what the real numbers will be.
That is not because any voters are changing their mind, or undecided voters have now decided.

It is because up till now the purpose of these polls was to shape opinion and perceptions, not report actual sentiments. Now, they need to protect their reputations so that they can stay in business for the next election cycle.


7 posted on 10/12/2024 6:45:00 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: BlueLancer

That just means that the response rate for Trump voters is low, not that they are actually under counted. Posters claim that they have found ways to adjust for the low response rates without under counting trump’s voters.


8 posted on 10/12/2024 6:48:25 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: johniegrad

Not if the polling methodology has changed to adjust for systematic biases, like the pollsters are saying.


9 posted on 10/12/2024 6:49:12 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Sam77

Sucks to be the derpstate MSM desperately trying to polish their turd of a candidate.


10 posted on 10/12/2024 6:50:54 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: Sam77

The Walz/Harris TV ads and billboards are proof that Timmy Tim Tampon and Harris the idiot have no clue what they are doing. It’s like we’ve gone back to the 50s.


11 posted on 10/12/2024 6:59:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember, the illegal aliens and thieving foreigners don't want AMERICA TO BE GREAT AGAIN.)
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To: oldbill

Freeper JennysCool said the same thing. I think you guys are right. They have to salvage their credibility, assuming they had any to begin with.


12 posted on 10/12/2024 7:02:25 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: nwrep

“As pollsters have said recently, they have adjusted for the anti-Trump bias their polls had in 2020, and the polls today are unlikely to undercount Trump voters.”

Could be true. However, Harris is doing badly with black and Hispanic voters compared to Biden. I’m questioning whether Harris’s poll numbers in the rust belt truly reflect her performance with minorities.

If she is way below Biden with blacks & Hispanics, what numbers are pollsters using to project turnout for Harris in rust belt states? I’m not talking Trump’s numbers, but actually turnout for Harris given he weak numbers she as far as black support.

I’m guessing this is an area concern with Dem strategists, not just concern with Trump’s numbers, but concern that Harris won’t generate the high turnout she needs in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee.


13 posted on 10/12/2024 7:07:41 AM PDT by Roadrunner383
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To: BlueLancer

... and I will crawl over broken glass to cast my vote for Trump.

Same here in my household.


14 posted on 10/12/2024 7:07:55 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: Sam77

Should be, and probably is, -20, not -6!

NATIONWIDE!


15 posted on 10/12/2024 7:09:10 AM PDT by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: Sam77

Yesterday while listening to the Wilkow Majority on Sirius, he reported that the DNC is going to start running ads in Michigan attacking 3rd party candidate Jill Stein. So they must have internal polls showing Stein getting enough support to affect kamalas vote.


16 posted on 10/12/2024 7:10:41 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I saw those billboards on interstates driving thru NC. Too small font and too much verbiage to read while driving past at 75-80.


17 posted on 10/12/2024 7:18:04 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: BlueLancer
Why in the world would you tell them to FO?

I keep hope hoping that a pollster calls me. I will tell them exactly what your last comment stated!

It makes no sense for Trump voters to not talk to pollsters.

Democrats have always wanted high poll numbers for their candidates to depress Republican voters. The higher Trump polls, the better the chances it will depress some Democrat voters.

18 posted on 10/12/2024 7:21:53 AM PDT by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Sam77

MSM is sounding the alarm. All Democrats on deck. Happens every election.


19 posted on 10/12/2024 7:22:41 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: Sam77

Look at Real Clear’s tracking of polls of Pennsylvania:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris

One poll stands out: Morning Consult.

Check other battleground states and the nationwide polls. Morning Consult always stands out. It’s a garbage poll.

Ditto Marist College.

Siena College is in the mix of the mainstream media polls that, supposedly, have fixed their bias, along with the Fox Poll and the Wall Street Journal Poll. Four years ago, the mainstream media polls were 3 or 4 points biased. Good for them that they say they’ve fixed their bias.

Problem for Kamala is that, when you kick out the crazy polls, she’s behind in the battleground states. It’s close, but she’s behind.

We also have leaks that the inside polls of the campaigns show Kamala behind.

Plus, the nervousness of the Democrats is on display. Kamala wants another debate and maybe will consider a neutral host like Fox. This is because she’s behind.

Her running mate says we need to get rid of the electoral college. This means Kamala and he are behind in the crucial “blue wall” states, but still have a shot at winning the nationwide popular vote.

Democrats up and down the ballot are reverting to foul language and threats of violence. Again, this means they sense or actually know they’re behind.


20 posted on 10/12/2024 7:34:20 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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