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Boeing's Starliner to Return to Earth on Friday, but Will It Ever Fly Again?
PJ Media ^ | September 03, 2024 | Stephen Green

Posted on 09/03/2024 1:52:35 PM PDT by george76

The good news is that Boeing was able to update the automated flight software on its troubled Starliner space capsule, allowing NASA to return it unmanned to Earth no sooner than Friday. The bad news — or at least the serious question — is whether Starliner will ever fly again.

NASA decided last week not to fly astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams home on board the same ship they flew to ISS on due to safety concerns about the service module's malfunctioning thrusters. While an astronaut is sometimes scheduled in advance to return to Earth on board a different space capsule, this is the first time anything like Boeing's snafu has happened...

the discussion between NASA and Boeing "was heated."

"Boeing was convinced that the Starliner was in good enough condition to bring the astronauts home, and NASA disagreed. Strongly disagreed," a NASA source told ... "The thinking around here was that Boeing was being wildly irresponsible."

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When that NASA source .., "Boeing wasn’t happy," that was certainly an understatement.

So, what's next for Starliner?

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The company is already $1.6 billion in the red on Starliner.

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Complicating things further, it seems impossible that NASA will not certify Starliner for any manned missions until it completes a manned flight test — at the company's expense under the fixed-price contract. That's going to cost Boeing at least another $100 million, plus however many millions it will take to diagnose and fix those thrusters.

Fixing Starliner means more delays, too — months? years? And ISS is scheduled to be deorbited (by a souped-up SpaceX Dragon) in 2030.

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1 posted on 09/03/2024 1:52:35 PM PDT by george76
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Updating the software is step one.

Successful implementation is another step—with Boeing you can take nothing for granted.


2 posted on 09/03/2024 1:54:50 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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There ain’t a whole lot of those old shuttle main engines out there, just how is Boeing going to add another manned flight test to it’s schedule? My back of the envelope calculations say they have 3 of the 4 engines required.


3 posted on 09/03/2024 1:56:22 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: george76

Is Boeing too big to die? (Boeing has already failed).


4 posted on 09/03/2024 1:56:52 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: george76

Will it survive re-entry?


5 posted on 09/03/2024 1:58:18 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? ECheck! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: kingu

Starliner doesn’t have anything to do with shuttle main engines; you’re thinking of SLS. (Which is another ridiculous boondoggle involving Boeing.)


6 posted on 09/03/2024 1:58:56 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: cgbg

NASA’s Sunita Williams and Butch Wilmore report hearing ‘strange noises’ coming from faulty Starliner..

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4262216/posts


7 posted on 09/03/2024 1:58:57 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
ISS is scheduled to be deorbited (by a souped-up SpaceX Dragon) in 2030.

Boeing may or may not be able to bring the astronauts home by then.

8 posted on 09/03/2024 1:59:09 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: rktman

We will soon all know.


9 posted on 09/03/2024 1:59:45 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

My auto mechanic told me to ignore all strange noises coming from my car. They are just routine issues with my audio system.

Perhaps Boeing can hire him.

Lol.


10 posted on 09/03/2024 2:02:17 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: george76

Just off the top of my head, because I know nothing about aeronautics, it appears to me that just about everything Boeing produces is mismanaged, most likely due to good ol’ DEI.


11 posted on 09/03/2024 2:03:11 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: george76

Go Woke, burn up on reentry.


12 posted on 09/03/2024 2:03:15 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: cgbg

Thrusters have been leaking helium all this time. Upgraded software isn’t going to make them work. Chances for a landing and not burning up in the atmosphere? Would anyone want to ride home in this thing?


13 posted on 09/03/2024 2:04:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: cgbg

Just upload the 737 MAX software to the capsule, it got things down to the ground quick.


14 posted on 09/03/2024 2:07:34 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Thrusters have been around since the beginning of manned space flight. The idiots at Boeing can’t make a simple 60 year old technology work. And what is the problem? Software again, like the Max 8. Maybe they need to stop the silly information age crap and just do it properly.

Like I shouldn’t have to navigate a touchscreen and half a dozen drop down menus to use the radio in a car.


15 posted on 09/03/2024 2:08:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: george76

Scrapliner


16 posted on 09/03/2024 2:09:19 PM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: george76

The bigger question is will it even return safely??????

IF it does then you can go on to your next question.


17 posted on 09/03/2024 2:09:59 PM PDT by egfowler3 (COVID-19, today's Hypochondriacal psychosis (aka: Delusional parasitosis))
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To: cgbg
Yeah...

No strange beeps BEFORE the O/S is updated for unmanned reentry...

Beeps start occurring AFTER the O/S is updated for unmanned reentry...

Coincidence??? or did someone overwrite a byte or two in the core code? I see a potential S0C4 error looming...

-PJ

18 posted on 09/03/2024 2:11:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cgbg

Who had a haunted Boeing Starliner ?


19 posted on 09/03/2024 2:13:55 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MtnClimber

When one Boeing door closes, another one opens.


20 posted on 09/03/2024 2:15:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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