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Trump promises free IVF for all
X ^ | 8/29/2024 | NBC News

Posted on 08/29/2024 2:23:42 PM PDT by mooncoin

Former President Trump tells NBC News that if he’s re-elected, his administration would not only protect access to IVF, but would have either the government or insurance companies cover the cost of it.


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KEYWORDS: invitrofertilization; ivf; proaborttrump; prochoicetrump
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To: Trump_Triumphant; nickcarraway

Selective fetal reduction (SFR) is a procedure that’s relatively rare, representing 0.07% of all abortions in a study of multiple pregnancies in England and Wales between 2009 and 2018.
Note that selective reductions are performed in natural pregnancies with multiple fetuses not only in IVF pregnancies. It’s a choice in either case, some parents would never consider selective reduction others like women who have abortions do.


101 posted on 08/29/2024 4:51:01 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt

It’s in the headline of the article.


102 posted on 08/29/2024 4:51:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: nickcarraway

Of course IVF increases the birth rate 2.5% of pregnancies are due to IVF in the most recent year studies 2022.


103 posted on 08/29/2024 4:52:34 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: mooncoin

not a good idea Donald.


104 posted on 08/29/2024 4:53:26 PM PDT by b4me (Pray, and let God change you. He knows better than you or anyone else, who He made you to be.)
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To: mairdie

Liberals do not control education, leftists do. But how is that going to change? How does IVF improve education?


105 posted on 08/29/2024 4:56:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: xenia

Bingo.


106 posted on 08/29/2024 4:57:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks for clarifying IMO that was the usual Trump showmanship loose statement to get people thinking.

As I found when I looked tonight 16 states already mandate coverage of IVF. Expanding that to the other states would be the natural way to accomplish making the technique available to infertile couples. Sharing the risk is how insurances work.

My rough calculations suggested a cost of ~$30/family policy. Since insurance companies negotiate discounts the treatment would cost them much less than the current cost as a private payor so the increase in the policy for a family policy covering a reproductive age female policy would be less.

Trump could sweeten the deal for insurances by cutting unnecessary paperwork or some other action that decreases their cost a bit.


107 posted on 08/29/2024 5:00:06 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: Magic Fingers; nickcarraway

Sixteen states already require insurances to cover IVF if they cover pregnancies. Each states dictates what coverage must be included in policies to allow an insurance company to offer policies in that state.
Pretty simple to encourage that coverage to be offered in other states. No federal dollars, no federal mandate.


108 posted on 08/29/2024 5:05:19 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt; Magic Fingers
So, IVF, abortion, vaccines etc. are forced on groups that don't agree with it, right?

Should Merrick Garand raid and close down any groups/churches who disagree with the government on this, or other policies?

109 posted on 08/29/2024 5:08:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Sponsored IVF can help middle class couples increase their families. And, yes, you’re correct that education has become the playground of leftists, not liberals.


110 posted on 08/29/2024 5:14:34 PM PDT by mairdie (Trump (I Wil Win) - Pavarotti's Nessun Dorma https://youtu.be/MigUKGKr-nQ)
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To: nickcarraway

You are upset. I understand but having insurance cover procedures is not forcing them on anyone.
I agree completely the Gov’t should not mandate or cover these procedures or medical care in general.

The Government is the payor for medicare & medicaid which is unfortunate. I would prefer each state to form a safety net as a partnership with insurance companies but that is not in the cards right now. A ton of money would be saved by getting the Government out of healthcare.


111 posted on 08/29/2024 5:16:18 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: one guy in new jersey
The Catholics in my neighborhood have Harris (Biden) signs in their yards.
112 posted on 08/29/2024 5:18:15 PM PDT by bella1 (Tytler's Cycle of Democracy)
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To: johniegrad
Trump just reiterated his position during the first few minutes of his WI town hall
113 posted on 08/29/2024 5:24:59 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Danie_2023
FYI, some women can’t conceive naturally due to problems like fibroids. IVF can solve that problem.

And therefore Fedzilla should step in and mandate that they get IVF for free?
114 posted on 08/29/2024 5:31:50 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: rottndog

He spoke about getting healh insurance to cover the procedure.


115 posted on 08/29/2024 5:36:18 PM PDT by antceecee ( )
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To: JayGalt

Then if a state does it or a company does that’s one thing. But not more federal gubmint.


116 posted on 08/29/2024 5:45:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Agreed. 16 states already do and that is the right path.


117 posted on 08/29/2024 5:50:09 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt; Magic Fingers
JayGalt - You must be a Democrat. You think money magically comes out of the air, just because the government commands it.

I assure you, money does not magically appear. And a HUGE portion of insurance is covered by the government, state, and especially federal. Huge.

Plus, IVF costs $40k - $80k, sometimes more. You think insurance companies can just magically find this money. You want necessary services to be taken away from some people, and given to others?

118 posted on 08/29/2024 5:52:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JayGalt
You are upset.

Why am I upset? That's just a leftist tactic, when they can't respond to logic.

I understand but having insurance cover procedures is not forcing them on anyone.

Yes, it is. You are saying organizations churches who don't agree with it, should be forced to do it. For example, a Catholic school or hospital should be forced BY THE GOVERNMENT to provide IVF to everyone it covers. The First Amendment doesn't apply to Catholics, or any other group that disagrees with the government.

I agree completely the Gov’t should not mandate or cover these procedures or medical care in general.

But that's exactly what you are saying. You are probably the most anti-libertarian poster I've seen on FR.

119 posted on 08/29/2024 5:58:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: rottndog

“And therefore Fedzilla should step in and mandate that they get IVF for free?”

I’m a conservative. I think the fedgov should only be doing things with our taxpayer $$$ like ensuring our national security. They have failed miserably at that one task. All else should be left up to the individual states (ie states’ rights).


120 posted on 08/29/2024 5:59:20 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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