[lee martell]

Serious question for someone who may know:
Are new police officers still taught how to fight, or at very least, are they taught methods of self defense?

I’m not talking about spraying Mace or blowing Whistles.
I’m talking about grappling or boxing. Wrestling down on the ground as the case may demand.

[gnarledmaw]

I really dont specifically about that.

I do know that the “pull the wrists away from the body from opposite sides” technique is the opposite of anything useful unless you are trying to let the person being subdued run away.

Body swinging side headlocks are really good for WWE, not much else.

There are a whole bunch of things there that suggest that at least those two have no training.

There used to be a few around here that claimed to know quite a bit about these things and their position was that the women always had to resort to unnecessary escalation of force because they didnt have the strength. This seems to suggest that they may be right.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

Once upon a time in America in decades past, that was a necessary skill. When bars, nightclubs, lounges were everywhere as the premier destinations for American social life. Cops had to be tough enough to handle drunken brawls when they broke out. The order of escalation of force back in the days of old were fists, nightstick, pistol and if things were really hairy, the shotgun. That's how a friend got hired in to a police department a long time ago. Big corn-fed kid, tall as a tree. His job was to go in, grapple with and throw brawling drunks out the door into the arms of cops waiting outside who would then stuff them into a paddy wagon. Ranking officers in departments used to be on the lookout for big guys like that, see them in store, a restaurant, cafe, ask about their employment status, work history, and perhaps recruit them on the spot. Wasn't a job for lightweights or little boss girls. Even with all the wonder tools there are these days, it still isn't.

 

 

[old school]

You learn how to fight on the schoolyard or on your walk to and from school.

The taxpayers, certainly, didn’t get their money’s worth in this instance.

Every kid (male) I knew, either got punched in the nose or punched someone in the nose by the time they were in the fourth grade.

It was just a rite of passage and real “Continuous Learning!”

Neither of those two chicks appeared to have ever been in a real fight or fought for their lives.

They’re gonna get someone else killed!

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

They do still learn takedowns, etc. in most academies.