Posted on 08/07/2024 11:25:59 AM PDT by Enlightened1
We have to go to war with the best we can, and I believe that is J.D. Vance.
You don’t like him, that is plain. It is your opinion, and I respect that. If you don’t want to be dirtied up by someone fighting on our behalf because you want to be 100% clean, then we can part ways.
I don’t care that he called Trump Hitler when he was ignorant and I don’t care if he was working with people you view as Leftists on his way up. Trump worked with people who I view as Leftists on his way up, and he did good by us.
What I care about regarding J.D. Vance is his loyalty to the mission going forward, and his dedication to Trump’s ideas and Trump’s plans.
We have too much at stake to make effectiveness the enemy of perfection. Trump isn’t perfect either and I am good with that.
But if we have to go to war, politically speaking, I want someone who, when our surrender is demanded, will say “Nuts!”
Since he was picked by Trump, Vance has shown me several times he isn’t going to shut up and retreat into a hole when he is attacked, so I believe in him.
If you want to view him as a snake in the grass, ready to stab Trump in the back, and by extension, the rest of us as well, I can’t help you with that. And even if that is our eventual fate, unless you have a crystal ball, you can suggest anyone you want to fight for us, but until Trump chooses someone else, it is going to be Vance.
Politics is a filthy, disgusting business. But we better get right with employing people to fight on our good cause (which is the preservation of our nation) who may have soil on their garments, but in the end, are going to help us endure.
“I can’t spare this man. He fights ...”
Also what I thought of Trump. Some family members just couldn’t see past his rough edges.
Towards the end of the video above, she can hardly keep up with the rest of the pack.
Or Pat Buchanan.
“What I care about regarding J.D. Vance is his loyalty to the mission going forward, and his dedication to Trump’s ideas and Trump’s plans.”
We have too much at stake to make effectiveness the enemy of perfection. Trump isn’t perfect either and I am good with that.
But if we have to go to war, politically speaking, I want someone who, when our surrender is demanded, will say “Nuts!”
Since he was picked by Trump, Vance has shown me several times he isn’t going to shut up and retreat into a hole when he is attacked, so I believe in him.
If you want to view him as a snake in the grass, ready to stab Trump in the back, and by extension, the rest of us as well, I can’t help you with that. And even if that is our eventual fate, unless you have a crystal ball, you can suggest anyone you want to fight for us, but until Trump chooses someone else, it is going to be Vance.
Politics is a filthy, disgusting business. But we better get right with employing people to fight on our good cause (which is the preservation of our nation) who may have soil on their garments, but in the end, are going to help us endure.
“Thanks for posting this reality!”
Thanks, Grampa Dave...
To be fair, I can hardly blame people who expect to get stabbed in the back. After all, how many times has it happened? Like Charlie Brown and that football.
In the end, Charlie Brown is an optimist. He has to keep trying. And so do we...:)
I am an optimist, and I am heartened. When the Left started attacking Vance for his “Cat Lady” comments, I logged on one day to see a thread “Vance Explains Cat Lady Comments” and for a split second, I got angry.
In my head, I imagined he was going to back up, apologize, cower, and give a feeble or non-existent justification.
But in the time it took for my mouse to open the link and begin watching the video, I realized just as instantly: Vance wasn’t going to back down. He isn’t the type. And he didn’t disappoint when I watched the video, either. It was a strong, rational explanation of an absolutely true statement, and not an inch of apology.
Not an inch. I’ll take that for starters, and we can see where this goes. This thing he did today just made me grin.
I could imagine Harris and her advisers, sitting in the plane in consternation, looking out the windows, saying “What should we do? Should Harris go out and confront him? Stay put? What? Someone tell us what to do!”
Love it. Just another data point to me.
You're one of the most reasonable folks here, so your proper post (thank you for not flaming me) deserves a proper response.
Yes, my pick was Elise Stefanik. As I wrote elsewhere, she’s got two Ivy League scalps and hasn’t wiped the blood from her mouth. People have called her RINO etc but they said that about Trump. I think she’d be a greater vote magnet than the others for fence-sitters, and would create a real problem for wokesters. They’d still bash her, but being a conservative woman neutralizes a lot of arrows in their quiver.
But the Campaign didn’t ask me my opinion. That’s ok. I’m not like many others who’ll hold a personal gripe against someone who does’t know me, over some phantom diss. That’s life…you can’t always get what you want.
Vance has admirable qualities - father, married, religious, worked in the private sector, military service. He SEEMS to be a fighter - as I wrote elsewhere, we don’t want a policy wonk anymore; we are selecting the frontman for the USA. What he did on the tarmac in Wisconsin was a David Lee Roth move politically. Awesome.
I don’t hold a grudge for what he said about Trump. People grow and change. Heck, 3/4 of this board were NeverTrumpers in June 2015. Him being a back-stabber never came to my mind.
His anti-big business views are right out of the DNC platforms of the 80s and 90s. He works with literal Senate enemies of free enterprise. That is a yuge yellow flag in my book. And this isn’t a trivial matter, like whether or not he feels NASA should be dissolved. Economics and regulation are a BFD.
Now, again, you can’t always get what you want. Does his economic sophistry wipe him out? No…he’s better than many other Veep options. And, really, who cares about the spare tire on a Shelby GT? Trump is the main event.
Net-net-net, he’s ok. Not great like Sarah Palin was as a pick, and inferior to Stefanik IMHO. And given the alternatives - Greg Abbott | Katie Britt | Doug Burgum | Tucker Carlson | Ben Carson | Tom Cotton | Byron Donalds | Tulsi Gabbard | Sarah Huckabee Sanders | Kari Lake | Nancy Mace | Kristi Noem | Vivek Ramaswamy | Marco Rubio | Tim Scott | Elise Stefanik | Marjorie Taylor Greene | Glenn Youngkin - he’s ok.
I hope that makes sense. Be well.
Re: 29 - I don’t believe it’s the same agent.
And she’s wearing body armor it seems.
Sure...I get it completely.
I think for me, I was on the fence for just about any VP. I admit to not being partial to Stefanik but that was more because she was from New York, and while I recognized she could bring some votes from New York, I wasn’t sure how much. I didn’t want to take Vance out of the Senate.
I didn’t know much about Vance apart that he wrote “Hillbilly Elegy”...I didn’t even know he had served in the Marines.
But I WAS surprised to see the many derogatory quotes from Vance that were posted by Freepers which were hard to ignore, and I had never heard those quotes before, so they were quite startling to me. They were very much at odds with what I had been hearing from Vance (about Trump) for the last few years, so it wasn’t making sense to me.
When I investigated, I found out they were from the early 2016 time frame, I immediately surmised that a change had occurred...somewhere. Then I saw that interview with Bongino, Carlson, and Trump Jr., and Trump Jr. explained that Vance had quickly, publicly, and unreservedly admitted he had been both ignorant and wrong about Trump, and became a fervent acolyte.
I could accept that, and it strengthened my opinion of Vance. No doublespeaking, no hiding from it. He put it right out there. Then I found out he had served in the Marines, and my esteem increased more.
I am a Squid, expected to have some kind of resentment against Marines, but since I had never spent time in the brig, I had never been able to conjure up any of that. In the end, I have always felt a default respect for any Marine in any walk of life as long as they haven’t proven by their actions they are not worthy of default respect. I have always figured anyone who made it through Parris Island should demand respect of some kind.
Anyway, thanks for your courteous response, FRiend...:)
Buchanan strikes me as a little bit too much of a DC insider. But he might have been an improvement from the others.
Requires smarts talent principles and hard work . RINOs don’t do that.
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