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I don't know anything about Vance other than he has supporters and detractors on FR. But I respect Hinderaker and his take on this is concerning. What do you all think?
1 posted on 07/15/2024 8:18:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ah shaddup. I am tired of it. Trump has made his pick and we go with it.


114 posted on 07/15/2024 10:19:24 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I wanted either Ben Carson or Tulsi Gabbard. Don’t know much about Vance at all to be honest — but think the “being on a journey” is better than being stuck in *fixed* lies, tied to *fixed* special interests, or trapped by *fixed*bad habits.

But being adaptable is not mutually exclusive with being principled.


115 posted on 07/15/2024 10:19:48 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Every criticism Hinderaker makes against Vance could be made about Trump in 2015.

I like this post over at Power line

“The difference between the two Ivy League lawyers Hinderaker and Vance appears to be 4 years in the Marines, success in venture capital and tech business in Silicon Valley, a New York Times best seller and movie, Senate by his mid-30’s, and the ability to evolve from elitist Trump and America First disgust to enlightened MAGA supporter.

Get off John’s lawn, kids! Go fight and die in the Middle East or set up manufacturing plants in China!”


119 posted on 07/15/2024 10:26:49 PM PDT by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Vance is wicked smart and outshines every other guy on Trump’s ‘short list’ I was relieved that he picked him over any of the rest.


120 posted on 07/15/2024 10:28:57 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I first discovered political blogs around 2003.

Over the course of 17 years my go-to sites were FR, Instapundit, HotAir, and Powerline.

As of election night 2020, the only one of these sites I’m still on is right here. I completely dropped the other three. They’re all controlled opposition.

Screw Hinderaker and his two little poodles. Screw Ed Morrissey.

And especially screw Glenn Reynolds, who tries to put himself over as this edgy alt populist, who shills for Amazon.

Instapundit’s format is basically all free flowing links to stories. In many cases it’s just a link. In many other cases, Glenn, or somebody else, makes a comment to accompany the link. And sometimes when he feels strongly about something, he’ll do his own rant accompanying the link.

I waited 3 days for him to make a statement about the election. To say something one way or the other about whether or not he thought it was stolen. He said nothing. And then he links to a story about “gaming Biden’s cabinet”.

They can all go to hell.


124 posted on 07/15/2024 10:40:30 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Did John ever say anything bad about Pence?


134 posted on 07/16/2024 12:32:43 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Sadly,a ranchers right to shoot their dog is a bigger issue to conservatives than Christian rights.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I agree, and am greatly disappointed.


135 posted on 07/16/2024 1:05:15 AM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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"...on foreign policy...he strikes me as something close to an isolationist. He attacks the Iraq war in a manner barely distinguishable from leftists, and his statement that “I got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another,” is flippant at best. The world needs a strong America; I am not sure Vance agrees. " tears

Keep crying, neocons, your tears strengthen me
137 posted on 07/16/2024 1:12:36 AM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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Vance is an excellent debater and mouthpiece...and has handled the press brilliantly. The only person better at dealing with the massive media onslaught might have been Vivek...and he's still available for Press Secretary.

As a former Trump-hater, he knows the other side's arguments and can dispel them with cool and aplomb.

140 posted on 07/16/2024 2:08:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (It's funny that the harder I work, the luckier I get.)
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This pick puts me back to probably sitting the election out.
He has a pathological hatred of Ukraine. And that makes it impossible for me to support him.


143 posted on 07/16/2024 3:39:25 AM PDT by Kozak (Слава Україні Герояам Слава. RuZZia is a terrorist state.)
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The Deep state fears JD Vance. That is the key, indeed the PRIMARY reason to support him.

Having an elder VP candidate with lots of gravitas (like Pence) does NOTHING to help Trump and MAGA if the DC establishment does not fear the VP.

I wanted Michael Flynn but am satisfied with the Vance pick.


146 posted on 07/16/2024 4:18:01 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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It would appear Hinderaker wants a well seasoned politician... That’s the last thing we need and Trump used to be a Democrat..people change.


147 posted on 07/16/2024 4:19:29 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Vance is what is necessary for the next 4 years. Trump needs another aligned warrior at this side to fight the deep state, and to look forward to the continuation of the fight into 2028. Most of the other VP potentials are good folk, I just don’t think they had the necessary hair of the bear in them to take the fight forward. Vance appears to have that fight in him. He has also drawn scorn from the right people - RINOs and leftists. That’s good for me.


155 posted on 07/16/2024 6:01:43 AM PDT by Godzilla (“When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty” - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bitch Bitch Bitch.

Vance is Trump’s choice, not his. He has all the right enemies.


156 posted on 07/16/2024 7:54:23 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think “Hind”eraker is a good name for him.


157 posted on 07/16/2024 7:55:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Hinderaker is a spoogejerking chowder-inhaling dicknipple.

Whatever he says, do the opposite.


158 posted on 07/16/2024 8:11:44 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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I think Trump sees Vance as a young guy he can bring along acting as a mentor. If we are going to make America great again the rust belt has to be rebuilt. JD Vance understands the problems there.

As for foreign policy lets face it its an on the job learning experience. Everyone runs for President thinking they know what’s going on and then right after inauguration they hand you what I like to call the book of secrets and you are suddenly faced with what’s really going on.

Trump is a unique character in that he did business for years with all the power players in the world before he became President. I think he pretty much knew from personal experience and was prepared to act on day one.

JD says he would have refused to certify on January 6th so imma with old judgement and see how he grows in the next 4 years.


161 posted on 07/16/2024 9:04:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I think, Shaddup, Never-Trumper.

“We Are Still Cucks”


163 posted on 07/16/2024 9:41:19 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Mitt Romney, Karl Rove (F.U.K.R.), and Commie Van Jones are all melting down over the pick.

Seems pretty sound to me.


164 posted on 07/16/2024 9:43:23 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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with less than two years in the Senate as his only political office

Personally, I'm completely fine with someone who is not a career politician.

168 posted on 07/16/2024 10:10:10 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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