I’m very happy to debate on a computer forum, but I realize my real time verbal skills are definitely second-rate.
Lawyers can get high hourly fees because it is a rare skill to be able to argue well in real time on one’s feet.
In this era of AI they can superimpose a mouth over Joe’s and have his AI produced words of his own answer the questions but it won’t be him speaking in real time. I shouldn’t give them ideas.