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It’s Hard! US Manufacturing PMI Collapsed In June
Confounded Interest ^ | 07/01/2024 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 07/01/2024 8:56:16 AM PDT by Kaiser8408a

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To: woodbutcher1963

“I knew a guy who had a pallet of silver delivered to his house back in the 1980s. I was like, what are you going to do with that? You could have bought ONE bar of gold.”

In 1980 and 2011 Silver had a bigger runups than gold.


21 posted on 07/01/2024 10:39:19 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Kaiser8408a

I knew it was Confounded Interest.


22 posted on 07/01/2024 10:43:30 AM PDT by Fury (I )
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To: zeestephen

I think the Baby Boomers and Generation X are still driving the economy. Meaning most of us(1963) now either own their homes outright or are very close. Our kids are out of college.
Many of us Boomers have no debt. So, even though dinner out now cost $100-200 they are still going out.

Generation X did not have as many kids. My daughter did not. Even though she is happily married. They now own a C7 Corvette. Bought it six months ago used with 30K miles. My son in law took me for a ride in it yesterday. We stopped for lunch. The two places were full of old rich people. My son in law(40) was the youngest person in both places we stopped.

However, most younger people CAN NOT afford to keep eating out. People in general, that are not wealthy baby boomers are getting squeezed.

This is why GDP is 1.4% and trending lower. Will we go lower than 0.0% GDP growth for two quarters(the definition of a recession) who knows. Jamie Diamond the head of the largest bank in the world says yes.


23 posted on 07/01/2024 10:50:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Lazamataz; Leaning Right

24 posted on 07/01/2024 10:53:16 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: SaxxonWoods; Salvavida
Re: "Gold/silver should be going through the roof..."

Silver and gold both hit record highs within the last few months.

Recently, silver is down about 10%. Gold down less than 5%.

The US Dollar refuses to collapse.

USD at $105.5 as I write this.

Neutral is $100. Above $100 indicates strength.

USD has been above $100 for 27 months.

25 posted on 07/01/2024 10:54:05 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: woodbutcher1963

I continue to wonder about the usefulness of precious metals if/when things get really bad here. I suppose it was good to hold silver and gold during the Weimar hyperinflation.

But Germany was a polite and orderly society. If things get crazy here, I would think that a guy with a can of beans would prefer to trade it for a few bullets instead of a silver coin.


26 posted on 07/01/2024 11:02:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: TexasGator

Yes, when the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market it went to all time highs in 1980. I still own 1976 Bicentennial coins I overpaid for back then. Then it dropped for twenty YEARS to a low of $7.48/oz in 2001. Then going straight up again like you mentioned to a high of $48/oz in 2011. Then dropped to $17.60/oz in 2018.

Most recently we have seen a high of $34. No it s back down to $29.

Today’s price on EBAY for 20 bullion coins is: $714.40 = $35.72/1 oz US Walking Liberty coin. This is from Pinehurst Coins out of NC.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314241077693

My last purchase was $590.47 ($29.52) on April 4th of this year


27 posted on 07/01/2024 11:07:13 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Leaning Right

The guy with the bullets in the gun will just take the can of beans.


28 posted on 07/01/2024 11:22:08 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Kaiser8408a

I am still 90% down where I was pre Chomo. I have some new orders coming in. But with the JIT delivery schedules I won’t start until next year.


29 posted on 07/01/2024 11:52:01 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Kaiser8408a

bump for later.


30 posted on 07/01/2024 12:08:48 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Have you ever met or heard of survivalists who stock up on the beans, avoiding being prepared to protect themselves?

If society collapsed how long do you think a murdering thief would last among the prepared?


31 posted on 07/01/2024 12:23:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Carriage Hill
Institute of Supply Management (ISM), Purchasing Managers Index (PMI)

Thanks. Maybe.

32 posted on 07/01/2024 2:43:13 PM PDT by TChad
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