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To: DiogenesLamp
If I go to the trouble of finding this information for you, will you change your opinion on the matter?

My opinion is that Arizona was likely stolen. But the attempts trying to prove that have been very sloppy, and whatever information that supposedly proves is still hidden somewhere, if it even exists. See, even you can't produce the 200,000 names you insisted were "fake voters."

Arizona alone didn't tip the election, either. It took several states. There were some obvious shenanigans going on in those states too. But nothing that has happened even after all these years has proven anything convincingly. No one really even tried. It's been all about building a PR campaign on social media to convince people it happened, verses actually proving it happened.

And as I keep saying, without hard evidence that can stand up cross-examination in court, our bedrock principles are, innocent until proven guilty, and you have to follow the Constitution, which was for the Congress to certify the electors sent by the States. Doesn't mean I'm happy about it. I just put our highest principles and ethics above emotion. And whining is for losers, at least where I come from. You try to prevent it from happening again, but that takes actual work, starting with proving what went wrong last time, which is still mostly abstract.

111 posted on 06/17/2024 8:37:51 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: Golden Eagle

“...shenanigans...”

By definition: Small scale, uncoordinated,inconsequential.

Why use the chosen vocabulary of the election fraud professionals? 🤔🤨


112 posted on 06/17/2024 9:43:09 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Golden Eagle
See, even you can't produce the 200,000 names you insisted were "fake voters."

Didn't say I couldn't produce them. Asked if it was worth the bother for me to go find that information.

I argue with a lot of people and I have previously gone to a lot of trouble to find the information people claim they want, all to have them dismiss it and refuse to change their opinion anyway.

Arizona alone didn't tip the election, either. It took several states. There were some obvious shenanigans going on in those states too. But nothing that has happened even after all these years has proven anything convincingly.

Disagree. The evidence i've seen easily convinces me that fraud was the primary source of Biden's "win."

2000 mules even demonstrates it, along with a lot of other information.

No one really even tried. It's been all about building a PR campaign on social media to convince people it happened, verses actually proving it happened.

I am not even aware of a social media campaign. All i've ever seen is article after article detailing how the fraud was committed. There is even a website called "hereistheevidence.com."

https://hereistheevidence.com

And as I keep saying, without hard evidence that can stand up cross-examination in court...

I have a low opinion of "courts." Our courts are dysfunctional and do not need evidence, and won't even look at it unless it suits them. Trump's hush money fake trial comes to mind.

Courts operate according to the whim of the judge. There is no way to force a court to look at something it refuses to see.

117 posted on 06/17/2024 10:17:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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