Posted on 06/09/2024 7:39:37 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
People "hear" and "see" things that are not there because the brain tries to make sense of everything it takes in.
This article is just noise.
If there are aliens from another planet running around the galaxy they are so advanced that they probably do not take any notice of us.
If they ever do then God help us.
The universe is infinite to any reasonable person. In your belief system let’s just say the universe as we know it is a gogoplex miles and ends.... Dead stop .. great big wall, all stop. Ok..what’s on the other side of that? Nothing isn’t an answer because something is beyond that and so forth..infinity. Nothing for me to prove. It’s reality that there is something after nothing. It can’t stop. Again prove to me there’s nothing after your so called end point? You can’t, so you saying I have to prove anything exist after your imaginary wall to you is BS. Again, prove it doesn’t...
As for extraterrestrials, you admit the possibility is small so therefore the existence is more likely than not because it’s not absolute. In an infinite universe that would be insane to think.
So your world is limited to what you think you know. I’ve got an open mind because I don’t know it all.
Looking forward to the day Aliens arrive. We could actually use another mass extinction event. Humans have pretty much f’d up everything they touch.
The aliens are here—no need to go hunting around the galaxy for them.
https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf
The biggest secret is that we are not the top of the food chain—not even here on this planet.
“Where [did] you get a degree in Ufology?”
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
Duh.
“Until proven, it would be a stalemate.”
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Yep. I finally realized, about five years ago, that we will probably never send manned spacecraft beyond the moon. No need. It kinda destroys stuff like Star Trek. That five year mission, with technology advanced 200 years from what we have now, would have zero humans involved in the actual journey. No interprise. No away teams. No risk to human life. No money spent in spacecraft infrastructure needed to support human life.
Give technology another century or two and robots, drones, computers, etc. can handle it all, and almost certainly better and a LOT cheaper than humans.
i.e. I don’t believe there are “aliens” on any of these UFO’s even if they are real. No need.
‘SpaceX is almost ready to start building a permanent human settlement on Mars with its massive Starship rocket.”
https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-first-mars-trip-2024
Ad populum logical fallacy. Because you have not provided reasonable evidence that the universe is infinite, you cannot claim that reasonable persons must accept your unproven claim as fact.
"In your belief system let’s just say the universe as we know it is a gogoplex miles and ends.... Dead stop .. great big wall, all stop."
Strawman (putting words in someone's mouth) fallacy. I never claimed that, within my belief system, the universe stops after googoplex (1010100) miles or any other distance.
"Ok..what’s on the other side of that? Nothing isn’t an answer because something is beyond that and so forth..infinity."
False dichotomy fallacy. One alternative to the dichotomy of either the something of an infinite universe or the empty space of nothing beyond a finite (but seemingly expanding) universe is that the matter/energy of the universe defines space-time existence; thus nothing (not even empty space) exists outside of our universe. Another alternative is that beyond a finite universe exists other universes (multiverses) of different dimensions. I don't know if either alternative is true, but as unproven alternatives they are no better or worse than your unproven claim of an infinite universe.
"Nothing for me to prove. It’s reality that there is something after nothing. It can’t stop."
Again, even though you claim the universe is infinite, you have not proven that the universe is infinite. You're just using a circular argument that the universe is infinite because it can't stop to be just finite.
"Again prove to me there’s nothing after your so called end point? You can’t, so you saying I have to prove anything exist after your imaginary wall to you is BS. Again, prove it doesn’t..."
Shifting the burden of proof fallacy. I have not claimed the universe is finite or infinite or any of the other alternatives possibilities mentioned above. Without any such claim, I have no burden of proof. The only claim made is your "the universe is infinite." The burden of proof lies with your claim. I am keeping an open mind as to whether the universe is infinite or appears finite beyond a few billion light-years.
"As for extraterrestrials, you admit the possibility is small so therefore the existence is more likely than not because it’s not absolute. In an infinite universe that would be insane to think."
If the probability of extraterrestrial life is estimated to be small, that means extraterrestrial life is less likely than more likely. Whether a finite or infinite universe, a very low probability of extraterrestrial life would mean that beyond a certain distance from the Earth, the existence of extraterrestrial life will not likely ever be known. This is because travel or communication between Earth and a planet in such a distant galaxy becomes essentially impossible.
"So your world is limited to what you think you know. I’ve got an open mind because I don’t know it all."
I suggest you need to work some more on your implied telepathic ability before you make a claim about what I think about the world.
I can see you have severe mental blocks with common sense.
I believe I said circular argument several times.
You said the universe stops after whatever distance. One alternative: nothing (not even empty space) exists outside of our universe. An impossibility as I stated. Your other alternative listed is a possibility nut nothing is not.
I can’t prove an unknown any more than you can prove one. That being said.. It’s reality that there is something after nothing because “nothing” doesn’t exist. Whatever it is we don’t know.
You’re ET existence thoughts are bizare but predictable.
I’m guess my telepathic capability is spot on based on the ramblings you’ve posted.
For Elgin I honestly don’t expect it to ever happen. It’s not practical and there’s no point. And it’s really expensive.
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