Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

To: Golden Eagle
a) EOs aren't laws. They are applications of existing laws, and are subject to the same legal and Constitutional issues as regular laws. We don't have (yet) any imperial edicts. One big question here would be whether EOs apply to Constitutional offices like President & VP

b) the PRA basically states that what a President deems a personal record is a personal record: its classification level is not addressed, but no restrictions are specified.

c)The rule of lenity would suggest that without specific legislation saying otherwise, Smith cannot change the interpretation of the law to criminalize behavior that isn't clearly criminal beforehand.

Point (b) above is part of Judge Cannon's questions to Trump's attorney's and Smith.

44 posted on 03/19/2024 11:25:02 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies ]


To: pierrem15; Alberta's Child

I made the distinction in the post you responded to, where I referred to “actual laws” being different than EO’s. But EO’s carry “the force of law” and are therefore very very similar in power and authority.

https://www.cio.gov/handbook/other-it-authorities/executive-orders/#:~:text=An%20EO%20is%20a%20declaration,assigned%20number%2C%20or%20their%20topic.

An EO is a declaration by the president which has the force of law, usually based on existing statutory powers, and requiring no action by the Congress. They are numbered consecutively, so executive orders may be referenced by their assigned number, or their topic. A sitting U.S. President may overturn an existing executive order by issuing another executive order to that effect.


47 posted on 03/19/2024 11:38:23 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies ]

To: pierrem15
the PRA basically states that what a President deems a personal record is a personal record

No it doesn’t, I’ve read it several times and it states nothing of the sort. It makes those determinations, by the definitions contained within it, which were released after Nixon to prevent Presidents from making those determinations on their own. If you disagree, show me the language in the law where it states that, rather than parroting what you’ve heard from others.

49 posted on 03/19/2024 11:41:32 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies ]

To: pierrem15
EOs aren't laws. They are applications of existing laws, and are subject to the same legal and Constitutional issues as regular laws.

Trump's EO's were exactly that (although I questioned one of them). None of Biden's EO's have been applications of existing law.

51 posted on 03/19/2024 11:50:12 AM PDT by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson