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To: BeauBo
The Ukrainian Army released an extensive video of the infamous Russian turtle tanks. They are far worse than expected.

Underneath that garbage is an old T-62M. The gun is not operational, there is no ammunition and the turret is locked in place. The panels are sheet metal removed from all kinds of scrap metal. Visibility is expectedly atrocious. The engine burns like it is running on coal and you can hear them miles away. Worst of all, that pile of Russian scrap metal was taken out by drones, so by something they supposedly should be protected, so even the EW component is apparently rubbish.

I have covered several wars where rebels or weaker factions were forced to improvise with what they got, but I have rarely seen something so utterly terrible than this Russian thing. Remember, when it comes to logistics then there is no difference in transporting a T-90M or this. Both eat up space, time and manpower. In many cases you have to make them even barely work before sending to the front. It is relatively wasteful. You would never do anything like this unless you are absolutely desperate.

The fact that Russia has to resort to haul literal garbage is so telling and reveals once more in what condition the Russian army and logistics behind it is. It also proves that the longer this war goes on, the weaker the quality of the Russian army becomes (which btw. was never really good in the first place). They have to dig deeper in their rotting storage facilities and deploy literal garbage.

https://x.com/Tendar/status/1804511198362079375

...Remember, when it comes to logistics then there is no difference in transporting a T-90M or this. Both eat up space, time and manpower. In many cases you have to make them even barely work before sending to the front. It is relatively wasteful. You would never do anything like this unless you are absolutely desperate....

These have killed a lot of Ukrainian drones.

3,131 posted on 06/22/2024 6:55:12 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: ETCM; All
It's really happening.

"We completed the procedure of providing weapons to Ukraine and is considering providing Anti-tank missiles and artillery shells first".

As we expected, the Raybolt ATGM and 105mm, 155mm artillery shells.

Russia, what have you done.

Perhaps this is what we should have done from the beginning. These North fanatics are should not be trusted and its ours to deal with.

You have far outlived your reputation, Putin.

https://x.com/mason_8718/status/1804148534498996732


3,132 posted on 06/22/2024 7:05:54 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

“Underneath that garbage is an old T-62M. The gun is not operational, there is no ammunition and the turret is locked in place.”

Scraping the bottom of the barrel? A good sign.

They would likely start doing this before running out of better gear, for all sorts of systems. Then the percentage of junk would be expected to rise at some varying rate, until they start losing the ability to flow even old junk forward.

It is encouraging to see this process advanced.

Send more Artillery! Getting the job done.


3,140 posted on 06/22/2024 2:58:38 PM PDT by BeauBo (,)
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