Posted on 02/24/2024 5:59:01 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas
The American proposals include:
a ceasefire in Ukraine, not peace,
de facto recognition of Russian territorial gains (by postponing this issue for 49 or 99 years),
the lifting of most sanctions imposed on Russia, and, in the long run, a return to energy cooperation, meaning imports of Russian gas and oil.
The package also lacks a guarantee of non-expansion of NATO, which the Russians consistently demand. Moscow has also received no promise to suspend military support for Ukraine. This last point, however, is reportedly accepted by the Russians.
Trump wins; Zelensky and the Neocons lose
Trump team’s secret offer to Moscow leaked
According to Polish outlet Onet, Moscow received a favorable ceasefire proposal from Trump’s circle, allegedly coordinated with European powers.Key terms:
— Ceasefire, not peace.
— De facto recognition of Russia’s territorial gains, with formal talks delayed for 49–99 years.
— Most sanctions dropped + return of Russian oil/gas to EU.
— No NATO non-expansion pledge.
— Continued US military aid to Ukraine (reportedly acceptable to Russia).pic.twitter.com/LD15tLB4mR— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 7, 2025
Which proposals by 47 will amount to handing all of Ukraine to Russia so that it can begin its announced campaign to kill all Ukrainians, while rearming to take the rest of it, as well as gearing up for its announced eventual war with NATO.
47, making Russia great again.
During Zapad 2021, military trains departed Russian loading stations between July 20 and August 19. Trains typically took about two days to reach Belarusian unloading stations such as Brest-Yuzhny, Lesnaya, and Polonka. The arrival window in Belarus spanned from July 22 to August 21.
https://x.com/InsiderGeo/status/1949731936097751127
1,094 for military equipment
100 for personnel.
88 covered wagons, including 44 carrying explosives
Partisan sources say Zapad 2025 logistics are following the same model. Trains are expected to arrive at Brest-Yuzhny, Lesnaya, and Polonka stations within days.
Belarusian military officials are considering moving parts of Zapad 2025 exercises closer to the borders with Poland and Lithuania. This reverses earlier plans to conduct drills deep inside the country. The stated reason is a defensive reaction to increased NATO activity.
All eyes on the Suwalki Gap.
Wouldn’t surprise me , but as was discussed earlier it doesn’t make sense. Sense only matters when the players are rational.
Nothing rational about Russian mir
As I have remarked elsewhere, “Yikes,the Ministry of Health advised encouraging unplanned and early pregnancy”. Does this mean the Russian Ministry of Health actually believes that unplanned pregnancies by young girls is a good way to build a healthy Russian population? Of course if Russia in the future continues the current practice of suicidal “meat wave” attacks in Russian planned wars, health of future Russian boys/men will obviously be of no concern. Will this well-intentioned Russian Ministry of Health also examine the health and fitness of those political sperm donors who are to breed the future “elite” of Russia as well as the selected surrogates?/sarc.
Poor poor Russians.
It's the perfect time for Zelensky to stage a false flag
The collapse of Ukraine will bring Peace to the world
It’s always fun checking in on the Ukie propaganda Ghetto thread. LOL! 😅🤣😂
They never disappoint.
It’s like an Exorcism :)
True !! 🤣😂😅
The occupiers see a man (70) walking the Bucha street, shoot him, take away some of his belongings, spot a nearby grocery - and start looting like there's no tomorrow.
https://x.com/olex_scherba/status/1953407832457433305
2 m video
Russian forces occupied Bucha for 33 days, leaving evidence of mass killings discovered after liberation on 31 March 2022. Authorities documented over 9,000 war crimes, 1,700 civilian deaths during the occupation.
Radio Svoboda journalists have released previously unseen surveillance camera footage documenting the killing of 70-year-old Bucha resident Volodymyr Rubailo by Russian military personnel on Yablunska Street on 4 March 2022. The video recordings, published by Radio Liberty on 6 August, show Russian soldiers first wounding Volodymyr Rubailo with an initial shot, then executing him with a targeted shot to the head while the civilian man could barely stand on his feet. Shortly after, Russian military personnel began systematically looting a grocery supermarket near Rubailo’s body, which remained on the ground throughout the incident.
The publication previously reported that Russian paratroopers from the 234th Airborne Assault Regiment from Pskov may be involved in Rubailo’s murder, specifically a group led by Sergeant Vladimir Borzunov. Radio Svoboda established that his unit was positioned at the location from which, according to Ukrainian ballistics experts, the shots were fired at the Bucha civilian. In a telephone conversation with a Radio Svoboda correspondent, Sergeant Borzunov confirmed that Russian military personnel killed Rubailo but denied his involvement and that of his subordinates in the civilian's murder. On 24 June, law enforcement officials identified three additional Russian military personnel involved in the killings of civilians during the temporary occupation of part of Kyiv Oblast. On 3 July, prosecutors sent the cases of four Russian servicemen accused of shooting civilians in Bucha to court.
When journalists and Ukrainian military personnel reached the city after Bucha’s liberation, they discovered evidence of mass killings. Some bodies were found on the streets, others with hands tied behind their backs. Ukraine officially called on the world to join the investigation into the murders of civilians in Bucha. On 14 April 2024, International Criminal Court Prosecutor Karim Khan personally visited Bucha. On 8 April 2022, authorities began exhuming bodies from a mass grave near the Church of St. Andrew the First-Called and All Saints in Bucha to identify the victims and establish the circumstances of their deaths. Private American company Maxar Technologies reported that the first signs of the mass grave near the church were captured in satellite images on 10 March 2022. Law enforcement officials have documented over 9,000 war crimes committed by the Russian army during the occupation of the Bucha district in Kyiv Oblast. More than 1,700 civilians died. During 2022 alone, law enforcement managed to identify 91 Russian military personnel who committed war crimes. The Armed Forces of Ukraine reported they had eliminated Russian soldiers who tortured civilians in Bucha.
Those are Ukranian special forces during the CIA sponsored 2014 Maidan coup.
Because, if there is a surrender and the Ukrainians are left defenseless, that is what WILL happen to them … and most likely the world will never know.
The Russians reveal themselves and their neo-Soviet tendencies by what they say with predictably constant nuclear threats and by what they do on the battlefields with banned chemical weapons and attacks against Ukrainian civilians.
Recently, I read here on FR that “Kremlin newswire RIA Novosti published op-eds on July 30 entitled “There is no other option: no one should remain alive in Ukraine”.”
That’s what the Russians say and what they do is almost nightly attacks against Ukrainian cities targeting civilian infrastructure, power, water and sewer and systems, along with hospitals, shopping plazas and apartment buildings suggests they mean it.
Imagine what “peace with Russia” might look like given how the Russians demonstrably care so little for human life, Christian principles or peace treaties.
From what the neo-soviet Russians and the putinistas here and around the web say, and considering Russian history when they called themselves the Soviet Union, this century’s version of Holodomor for Ukraine is to be expected should Ukraine surrender.
Because Russian mir or something.
‼️🇺🇦🇷🇺Ukrainians agree to peace along the front line and lifting sanctions on Russia in exchange for security guarantees, - KMIS poll
▪️This is a "conditional plan of Europe and Ukraine": Ukraine receives reliable security guarantees from Europe and the USA. Russia retains…— Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) August 7, 2025
Ukrainians agree to peace along the front line and lifting sanctions on Russia - KMIS poll
▪️This is a "conditional plan of Europe and Ukraine": Ukraine receives reliable security guarantees from Europe and the USA. Russia retains control over the occupied territories, but Ukraine and the world officially do not recognize this. Ukraine moves towards joining the EU. After establishing sustainable peace, the USA gradually eases its sanctions against Russia.
▪️Such a plan is supported by 54% of respondents, opposed by 35%.
▪️The "conditional US plan" would be supported by 39%, opposed by 49%: a group of EU countries, without the USA, give Ukraine security guarantees. Russia retains control over the occupied territories. The USA officially recognizes Crimea as part of Russia. Ukraine moves towards joining the EU. The USA and Europe lift all sanctions against Russia.
▪️The "conditional Russian plan" is ready to be supported by 12%, opposed by 76%: Ukraine must significantly reduce its army and limit armaments. Kyiv permanently renounces NATO membership. The cities of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and generally all the territory of the LPR, DPR, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson regions come under Russian control. Ukraine officially recognizes all territories as part of Russia and permanently renounces them. Ukraine moves towards joining the EU. The USA and Europe lift all sanctions against Russia.
*******
********
Ukraine must significantly reduce its army and limit armaments.
Kyiv permanently renounces NATO membership.
The cities of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and generally all the territory of the LPR, DPR, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson regions come under Russian control.
Ukraine officially recognizes all territories as part of Russia and permanently renounces them.
Ukraine moves towards joining the EU.
The USA and Europe lift all sanctions against Russia.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.