I have a problem wit Virginia Giuffre being labeled a victim. From the picture of her and Prince Andrew, she looks very happy and pleased with herself. She certainly knew what she was doing, even if she was a few months short of her 18th birthday at the time. She was enjoying life in the fast lane, and now she’s still interested in the cash and publicity. There is obviously an enormous amount of sex trafficking occurring across our Southern border. I doubt Giuffre is doing anything about that. She runs a charity the same way the Clintons do. In my youth, she just would have been called a whore.
>>”I have a problem wit Virginia Giuffre being labeled a victim.”
I tend to agree. She may have been a victim of sorts. I can accept her contention that she was coerced, initially and was pressured to have sex with Epstein. She may even have been threatened with violence if she refused. But she continued her relationship with Epstein and Maxwell after that first incident, and in the well known picture you with Prince Andrew that you mentioned, she doesn’t look particularly frightened or coerced. On the contrary, they both appear to be genuinely having a good time.
And s far as calling sex with a 17 year old, pedophilia, that’s a bit of a stretch. I suspect that Epstein and Maxwell were involved in things far worse than their relationship with Guiffre and don’t want to give them a pass, but overstating what occurred between Giuffre, Epstein and Maxwell only serves to convince the average person that there’s no there, there, which is a shame because I think there’s a lot of there, there if investigators look beyond Guiffre.
I agree. Add to that that other women trafficked by Epstein said in Maxwell’s trial testimony that they were introduced to Epstein by Giuffre, not Maxwell. IOW, Giuffre was one of the traffickers and should be in jail with Maxwell. Add to that that her lawyer was one David Boies of Clintonista fame, and the mystery deepens. I think the whole Prince Andrew lawsuit was an attempt to divert heat away from the Clintons.