Posted on 12/30/2023 12:56:39 PM PST by Starman417
The Confederates were LUCKY that Lincoln was President. I’m telling you Jackson WOULD have hung EVERY single Rebel Leader.
I would have answered:
“Sin aka Evil caused the Civil War”
“That would not have happened under Jackson, who would hav3 crushed treason quickly.”
He sure did a number on the Cherokees!
“For openers, try any of Thomas Delorenzo’s works.”
Why should I read someone’s opinion when I can read the actual documents produced by the people who did the seceding?
The Declaration of Causes documents made it clear they were seceding because of slavery.
The Confederate Constitution where they prevented any state from abolishing slavery also showed their priorities (so much for states rights). “No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed. “
Arkansas,Tennesee, Virginia and North Carolina all seceded to stop the “federal invasion” of the South. Slavery was not mentioned at all in their secession ordinances.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.
Many of these historically ignorant people are Republicans.
Makes one wonder...
Hmmm. I don't think so...
The indians weren’t particularly fond of the “Great White Father” in Washington and his policies.
Oh, you better belive it. Lincoln fought the war with 1 hand behind his back. Jackson would have adopted Sherman style tactics in 1861.
You are an @$$.
Yeah, i'm trying to hide it from him. That's why I told him exactly where it came from.
You imagine things that your own mind manufactures.
If you were in my presence, I would have hit you in the mouth for suggesting I was being dishonest.
I just grabbed the paragraph the way I found it. Copy and Paste. I don't even know what the last sentence was.
https://housedivided.dickinson.edu/sites/lincoln/letter-to-horace-greeley-august-22-1862/
If you want to blame someone for leaving off the last sentence, blame the guy who created that page.
Fully documented eye-opener.
That’s because by far and large slave owners were benevolent and not bull whippers.
You are sloppy and dishonest. Lost Causers draw from Lost Cause sources. I have added the final qualifying sentence of Lincoln’s many times on these threads. See my post #20 (again, for the first time).
“I suggest you watch the famous documentary by Ken Burns.”
Burns is a pinko. Watch the Shelby Foote series of interviews,
All 5 million of them, eh?
You let 4 minority states tell you what to think, and *IGNORE* what the other 7 had to say. Why do you do this? Because you want to believe what you want to believe, and you aren't interested in anything that doesn't support what you wish to believe.
Virginia seceded because they viewed the Federal government attempting to raise an army to subjugate their sister states as Tyranny. Virginia was the most important state in the Confederacy, yet you ignore what the most important state had to say to focus on what bugtussel Mississippi had to say.
Not very objective, that.
“The South maintained slavery because it was integral to the economic and social structure.”
Exactly.
It will make it harder for them to refute a Republican who says to watch Ken Burns in their answer about the Civil War.
-PJ
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