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Pentagon To Remove Memorial To Confederate Dead From Arlington National Cemetery , GOP Lawmakers Try To Stop It
Post Millennial ^ | 12/14/23 | Darian Douraghy

Posted on 12/14/2023 8:48:43 AM PST by Enlightened1

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To: DiogenesLamp

The Slave Power was using the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to abuse the State Rights of the northern States. Then they had a fit when the same thing happened to them, and committed treason against the US.


61 posted on 12/14/2023 12:59:08 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: 100%FEDUP
“Never forget Devout RINO Thom Tillis was part of this commission and agreed with and voted for these changes.”

I never think of Thom Tillis at all unless he is the news.

Whenever his name does come up it is in regards to some controversial issue - and then he is on the wrong side.

62 posted on 12/14/2023 1:06:21 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: bwest

I see there are still a few naive RINO idiots still here.


63 posted on 12/14/2023 1:37:06 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Enlightened1

Making room for Cankles?


64 posted on 12/14/2023 1:42:58 PM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Enlightened1

American Confederates have been cancelled. Erased from history.


65 posted on 12/14/2023 2:00:11 PM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: Enlightened1

Robert E. Lees property is located in the center of the Arlington National Cemetery , GOP Lawmakers Try To Stop Itit was bought out to get ride of him.

Story in the old farmers almanac page 164.

What they going to do move Arlington National Cemetery.


66 posted on 12/14/2023 2:48:00 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: Enlightened1

Our local County Seat has removed the Confederate statue that has been there for decades. In Oklahoma the Cherokees have removed the memorial to Stand Watie, the last Cherokee General to lay down arms.
The Stand Watie Memorial Bridge is now the Honey Creek Bridge and the Stand Watie Memorial Highway is now just Highway 59. So far Stand Watie is still buried in the cemetery near Grove OK. They have not dug him up yet.


67 posted on 12/14/2023 3:16:48 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: jeffersondem

The REPUBLICAN PARTY was founded on two platforms.
The abolition of mormon polygamy
and
The abolition of slavery.


68 posted on 12/14/2023 3:18:48 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Vaduz

An 1882 Supreme Court decision declared the federal government had confiscated Arlington House from the Lees without due compensation, and the property was returned. George Washington Custis Lee sold the house and 1,100 acre estate back to the government for $150,000.


69 posted on 12/14/2023 3:30:06 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Enlightened1
They were Americans.

For the love of mike if the Pentagon has nothing better to do then this, I have a list of chores.

70 posted on 12/14/2023 3:39:32 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: cowboyusa; jeffersondem
The Slave Power was using the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to abuse the State Rights of the northern States.

You are referring to the "fugitive slave act." I'm not sure if we've covered this before, but just to make sure, I am now informing you that Article IV, Section 2 of the US constitution *REQUIRES* states to return fugitive slaves.

Article IV, Section 2.

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

The Northern states agreed to this condition when they ratified the US Constitution.

What that means is that the Northern states *GAVE UP* any right to refuse to return fugitive slaves.

You cannot say they were "abused" when they agreed to do this as a condition of being part of the United States.

So are we clear on this point? Or were you referring to something else when you said the government was abusing the Northern states?

If you meant something else, I am all ears and would like to understand what you mean.

71 posted on 12/14/2023 3:44:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

And the Southern States agree to give up thier complete severity when they entered the Union


72 posted on 12/14/2023 3:49:28 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The same Constitution the Confederacy tried to rip up and rebellion against.


73 posted on 12/14/2023 3:50:11 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Vendome
Both parties deprecated war but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, ...

Yes, without the Southern states, the entire Union would have just fallen apart and ceased to exist.

Talk about hysterical exaggeration!

No, the Union wouldn't have "perished" if it didn't have the Southern states to tax at 72% of the total revenue for the Federal government.

The Northern citizens would just have to start paying for their own government and all the big tax and spend government projects they wanted in the 1860s.

Lincoln was a Drama Queen.

Oh, and in his first inaugural address, Lincoln was calling for the passage of an amendment that would keep the slaves in bondage forever, so he's not even very honest when he talks about how concerned he is for their suffering.

74 posted on 12/14/2023 4:13:51 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: cowboyusa
And the Southern States agree to give up thier complete severity when they entered the Union

?

What does "complete severity" mean? I don't understand what you are saying here.

75 posted on 12/14/2023 4:16:20 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Enlightened1

My family visited there several years ago, and it was a monument to healing of a nation. If the folks that lost brothers and husbands in that war could forgive and honor their former enemy, who are we to take that away?


76 posted on 12/14/2023 4:21:57 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: cowboyusa
The same Constitution the Confederacy tried to rip up and rebellion against.

You are going to have to be clearer here. The Confederate constitution was pretty much just the regular old US Constitution with a few changes, but easily recognizeable as being patterned after the same.

So it isn't the constitution they hated, and you can't "rebel" against it by leaving it. That's like saying someone is "rebelling" against marriage when they get a divorce. No, they just didn't want to be with that partner anymore. They had nothing against marriage, they just wanted to be separated from a specific individuals.

And with the Northern states sucking up 60% of everything the South did to put in their own pockets, it's no surprise that the Southern states wanted out of the arrangement".

And while we're at it, Virginia specifically said in their US Constitution ratification statement that they reserved the right to leave the Union if the Federal government became injurious to the rights of their citizens.

Which it did.

77 posted on 12/14/2023 4:22:37 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Their is no right to leave, the Union was declared perpetual by the Articles of Confederation, and Section 10 of the Constitution states that no State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance or Confederation


78 posted on 12/14/2023 4:35:19 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Ok, I didn’t want to go here, but you asked for it. The Pre- Civil War South was anti- free market, and a form of socalism. It was even defend as such.


79 posted on 12/14/2023 4:37:16 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: 21twelve

who are we to take that away?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Who are we? Well, we’re either the Democrats, i.e., Socialists, Communists, and Fascists, or we’re the rest of the population, i.e., the bootlickers who are at the mercy of the Democrats!


80 posted on 12/14/2023 5:03:12 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Biden left our troops to die in Afghanistan and our military equipment to our enemy. Never forget.)
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