the point when McCarthy was outed and he knew his goose was cooked
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kFqgRFal35A&pp=ygUZZ29kZmF0aGVyIG9sZCB0aW1lcyBzYWtlIA%3D%
In another poll, 45% of respondents did not know who Kevin McCarthy is. Several thought McCarthy was a member of the Beatles.