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To: nickcarraway
I can't find anywhere, where the Founding Fathers voted on the definition.

Can you find where they voted on the definition of "horse", or "arms"?

I'm thinking they didn't vote on very many definitions, they just accepted the commonly understood meanings for the time period.

"Citizen" is a Swiss word. The correct English word was "Subject", but they deliberately tossed that one aside.

Vattel seems to be a Prussian, who never visited the United States.

He is Swiss.

Now let me ask you something. Are you aware that in 1776 every country in the world was a monarchy except Switzerland, which was the only Republic in the World?

Did you know Vattel put the idea of a collection of states forming an independent Republic into the founder's heads? He literally thought up the idea.

From Vattel's "Law of Nations", published in 1758.

Finally, several sovereign and independent states may unite themselves together by a perpetual confederacy, without ceasing to be, each individually, a perfect state. They will together constitute a federal republic: their joint deliberations will not impair the sovereignty of each member, though they may, in certain respects, put some restraint on the exercise of it, in virtue of voluntary engagements. A person does not cease to be free and independent, when he is obliged to fulfil engagements which he has voluntarily contracted.

Do you know if such words had been written anywhere else in the world it would be Treason? Do you know Switzerland was the *ONLY* place in the world where such words could be written and the author not be arrested?

Undermining the authority of the King was serious business in 1758.

215 posted on 08/30/2023 1:55:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
He is Swiss.

He was never Swiss. That's an anachronism. The Principality of Neuchatel, which during his lifetime was ruled by the Prussian. It didn't become part of Switzerland until the century after he lived. How could he be Swiss?

265 posted on 08/30/2023 4:05:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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