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“Incredible Destruction”: Ukraine Loses 31 Vehicles and 7000 Men Liberating Two Villages
Gateway Pundit ^ | 8-21-2023 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 08/21/2023 7:20:27 AM PDT by bimboeruption

“The Armed Forces of Ukraine lost 31 vehicles in the battle for the village of Staromayorsk alone, including 23 mine-protected armored vehicles, given to them by NATO countries,” reports Julian Röpke of pro-war German newspaper Bild.

On Bild TV, Röpke showed Russian images of the destroyed armor, saying that Bild had been able to verify the veracity of the images. The destruction caused to Ukrainian forces in the course of liberating just one of six villages they had taken in the direction of Mariupol in South Ukraine was “incredible”, Röpcke said. The destroyed vehicles were “mainly western-supplied vehicles”, Röpcke noted.

Ukraine has lost 9 out of 18 German-supplied Leopard 2A6 tanks, according to Bild. While some tanks may possibly be repaired, maintenance facilities are 1000 miles to the west and some tanks are still trapped under enemy fire.

“This does raise the question of how long Ukraine can keep this up,” Röpcke said, who has been one of the main saber-rattlers for the NATO-Russia war in Europe. “We know that way more than 30 vehicles were destroyed seizing the village of Robotyne (Robotina), which still hasn’t been completely liberated.”

“If Ukraine is losing 20 to 30 vehicles per village, and has a total of about 500 western-supplied tanks and APCs, you can do the math and figure out Ukraine will not be liberating southern Ukraine at that pace.”

“Despite the pledge of over 100 Leopard, Challenger and Abrams main battle tanks in January 2023, neither Germany, Great Britain, nor the USA have followed up on their tank deliveries.” In contrast, the Russian army brings between 20 and 50 new or upgraded main battle tanks a month, Bild reports.

Springer Publishing’s Bild tabloid, the largest newspaper in Germany, has been one of the leading cheerleaders for endless war in Ukraine since Day 1 of the Russian invasion. Springer is majority-owned by New York-based KKR & Co. (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts). Gen. David Petraeus is chairman of KKR Global Institute. Springer CEO Mathias Döpfner served as board member of NATO think tanks Institute for Strategic Dialogue and Aspen Institute, the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group and the World Economic Forum.

Russian sources estimate Ukraine lost 7,000 men taking the villages of Staromayosk and Urozhaynoye. According to the Russian Ministry of Defence figures, Ukraine has lost approx. 54,000 men since the start of the “counter-offensive” June 4, with 1400 casualties last weekend alone.

As more and more Ukrainians seek to escape the “Meat Grinder” by bribing draft board officials, President Volodymir Zelenski fired the heads of all the military recruitment centers and replaced them with wounded combat veterans, RFE/RL reports.

“Amid a war that has killed tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians, a report that a $4.35-million seaside villa in Marbella had been purchased by Yevhen Borysov, the head of the Odesa regional military enlistment office — along with an office in the Spanish resort city and a luxury car — pushed public anger to a point where the government apparently decided it had to act”, US government-controlled RFE/RL reports.

According to Valeriy Bolhan of USAID-tied Center for Public Investigations, as many as 50,000 people had paid off military recruiters in Odessa with $5,000 to avoid conscription or go abroad.

US officials are “increasingly critical of Ukraine’s counteroffensive strategy and gloomy about its prospect of success,” the Financial Times reports, “deepening tensions between Kyiv and Washington at the most critical point in the war since Russia’s full-scale invasion.”

“I don’t think that you’ll hear an argument from anyone that this is going well right now or that this is heading to a place that people would view as good, but there is not much by way of plan B,” said Samuel Charap, a senior political scientist at the Rand Corporation.

“It’s been about 10 km of advance at most no matter where you look in this offensive,” Michael Kofman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace told FT.

Even in the face of massive casualties, Biden Regime operatives “encouraged Ukraine to be less risk-averse and fully commit its forces to the main axis of the counteroffensive in the south so it would have a chance of breaking through Russian lines to reach the Sea of Azov, effectively cutting Russia’s land bridge in southern Ukraine to Crimea”, FT writes.

Even if Congress authorizes the latest package of Ukraine funding requested by the White House, “some US officials and analysts say it is unlikely that Washington will be able to offer the same level of lethal assistance to Ukraine next year, given the looming presidential election and munitions manufacturers’ longer-term schedule to increase production,” FT writes.

Republican congressman Andy Harris told a town-hall meeting in Maryland the counteroffensive had “failed”, FT reported. “Is this more [of] a stalemate? Should we be realistic about it? I think we probably should,” Harris told constituents in Abingdon, Maryland, 25 miles north-east of Baltimore. “I’ll be blunt, it’s failed.” He was also pessimistic about the course of the war, saying, “I’m not sure it’s winnable anymore.”


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To: Mariner; ought-six

USA-FRANCE said:
“We have to prevent them (Russia) from arriving on our shores.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Mariner’s answer:
“Russia can’t even finish off Ukraine and you’re warning the world, in the most sinister tones possible, that the Russian Army is going to one day arrive on our shores.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes indeed, I warn the world. Russia is not only Russia. RUSSIA has allied itself with America’s worst enemies: the islamo-fascists of IRAN, the Communist fundamentalists of the CCP of CHINA, the Orwellian nuclear state of North Korea, and the usual suspects : CUBA, VENEZUELA, NICARAGUA.
It’s a GLOBALIZED network of commies, neo-soviets, and islamo-fanatics. They are all America-hating entities. They can, and are damaging America’s interests all over the planet.

You are truly short-sighted and naive if you believe that all those anti-american countries pose no threat to the USA!
You are not a Chamberlain are you?


61 posted on 08/21/2023 3:34:07 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

First of all, UNLIKE YOU, I am an America first...American.

And an Honorably Discharged veteran with a couple of campaign ribbons. And a personally autographed thank you letter from Ronald Reagan. And a SERE badge.

And your just a loud mouthed pussy living in France and acquiring that foreign voice.

Another allusion to cowardice from you and I’ll shame you like you haven’t been before.


62 posted on 08/21/2023 4:49:18 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

First. I know nothing about you, and you know nothing about me.
I don’t boast about anything. I care about the West’s survival against very aggressive neo-sovietism, communism; radical islam and other anti-American imperialistic organizations.

Here is a truth you and I can convene on I hope:

RUSSIA has allied itself with America’s worst enemies: the islamo-fascists of IRAN, the Communist fundamentalists of the CCP of CHINA, the Orwellian nuclear state of North Korea, and the usual suspects : CUBA, VENEZUELA, NICARAGUA.

It’s a GLOBALIZED network of commies, neo-soviets, and islamo-fashists. They are all America-hating entities. They can, and are damaging America’s interests all over the planet as we speak.

You need to denounce those entities woking AGAINST America.
Will you do it ? Just asking....


63 posted on 08/21/2023 5:50:08 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Mariner
USA-FRANCE, who seems to post much on the topic of the Ukraine-Russia war, asked "You are not a Chamberlain are you?"

Seems like a bit of a cheap shot, for one may look back to some French history....

"The break from the Third Republic came about in part due to the shock and humiliation of being so rapidly bested by the German military, and French leaders were looking everywhere for an explanation for their defeat. That blame fell squarely on the shoulders of Communists, socialists and Jews. Jewish people in particular had been experiencing animosity for decades, since the Dreyfus Affair of the 1890s. All three elements were believed to have taken advantage of the liberalization that occurred during the Third Republic, but France's violent streak of anti-Semitism didn't necessarily make Vichy a fascist regime.

'I think the best term for them is authoritarian,; says historian Robert Paxton, the author of Vichy France: Old Guard and New Order, 1940-1944. 'It doesn't act like a fascist regime because traditionally elites have to give way, and in authoritarianism they retain power. But all the foreign Jews were put into camps, they cracked down on dissent, and it was in some ways increasingly a police state'.”

And "The misconception that the Vichy Regime was the lesser of two evils endured only for the first few decades after the war. Since then, as more archival material has come to light, historians have gradually come to see the collaborators as willing participants in the Holocaust. Before the Nazis ever demanded the Vichy government participate in anti-Semitic policies, the French had enacted policies that removed Jews from civil service and began seizing Jewish property. 'The Vichy French government participated willingly in the deportations and did most of the arresting,' Paxton says. 'The arrests of foreign Jews often involved separating families from their children, sometimes in broad daylight, and it had a very powerful effect on public opinion and began to turn opinion against Pétain'.”

Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/vichy-government-france-world-war-ii-willingly-collaborated-nazis-180967160/

"After the defeat of Nazi Germany, a carefully constructed national myth obscured the reality of the Vichy regime. Charles de Gaulle, leader of the Free French forces, propagated that myth, and historians echoed it for many years. School textbooks depicted wartime France as a nation of resisters who had refused to collaborate with the occupier. Influential historical accounts, like Robert Aron's Histoire de Vichy, depicted Pétain as a 'shield' and De Gaulle as a 'sword,' each of whom had been necessary in their different ways for the defense of French interests.

"At the time of the liberation, De Gaulle claimed that 'only a handful of scoundrels' had behaved badly during the occupation: the rest of the country could look themselves in the eye as patriots. This 'sublime half-lie,' as Henry Rousso dubbed it, formed the basis for postwar attempts at national reconciliation, symbolized in 1964 by the transfer of the remains of resistance hero Jean Moulin to the Pantheon in an elaborate two-day ceremony.

And "Collaboration, Paxton argued, was not merely a catastrophe forced upon France by military defeat, but part of an internal French conflict with a much longer history. It was something actively sought by the Vichy leaders, not a demand placed upon France by Germany. Conservative, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary traditions incubated in France itself underpinned the politics of the regime. Vichy was not a 'lesser evil'.”

Source: https://jacobin.com/2020/07/vichy-france-holocaust-nazi-hitler-world-war-ii

Don't let name-calling in the form of a question get to you. Every nation has had its share of saints and its share of sinners. When the sinners seemed to rule for a time, they appeared to many as saints. History came along, and undid some carefully constructed mythologies.
64 posted on 08/21/2023 6:04:44 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: tennmountainman

Bkmk


65 posted on 08/21/2023 6:27:01 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

I will never agree with you on anything, ever.

We are enemies.


66 posted on 08/21/2023 6:53:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“I will never agree with you on anything, ever.
We are enemies.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Strong words you have there!

In the meantime, since you have not contradicted the fact I’m (once again) stating here below, it means you are actually approving my analysis.

Indisputable and provable annalysis:

RUSSIA has allied itself with America’s worst enemies: the islamo-fascists of IRAN, the Communist fundamentalists of the CCP of CHINA, the Orwellian nuclear state of North Korea, and the usual suspects : CUBA, VENEZUELA, NICARAGUA.

Indisputable.


67 posted on 08/21/2023 7:14:19 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

You’re an idiot.

Don’t post to me anymore if you value your account.


68 posted on 08/22/2023 9:47:40 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“You’re an idiot.
Don’t post to me anymore if you value your account.”

>>>>>>>>>>

Remember, your Kremlin tactics to insult and threaten people here on FR is forbidden.
Please read the rules again.

Cheers,


69 posted on 08/22/2023 12:29:47 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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