Posted on 07/31/2023 7:48:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
There’s a great inside baseball discussion linked and embedded down below talking about Georgia Republican Politics. However, before getting to that video some background context is needed.
There are states where the professional [GOPe] republican grip is tight, and there are states where the MAGA insurgency has gained strength loosening that corporate club grip. Georgia is a state where the party apparatus is gripping the reins tight and not willing to let the populist movement impede their professional political stranglehold.
Governor Brian Kemp is to Georgia in 2024 as Govenor Haley Barbour was to Mississippi previously. Kemp controls the party machinery and Kemp has always despised the popular support for Donald Trump, an unacceptable republican in the eyes of the party apparatus. It is not coincidental that Sea Island Georgia is the epicenter of the Wall Street assembly against the populist insurgency. Georgia is a battleground state for Republican power and control.
Before going further, watch this 20 second clip of MeAgain Kelly interviewing Ron DeSantis recently. Notice the mindset, the point of reference for DeSantis, when Kelly pokes him about his distant polling to President Trump. Notice the state he references {Direct Rumble Link} WATCH:
I’m not going to repeat the examples of the Sea Island reference points, the Mike Pence rally to support Kemp, George W Bush rallying support for Kemp, the intentional non requests for Trump ’22 campaigning, True the Vote’s Catherine Englebrecht documenting the systemic vote system corruption by Georgia Republican Governor Brian Kemp and his entire administration, or the MSM push to use Kemp as an example of a Trump slayer.
Additionally, you guys already know the background of Georgia grassroots activists booing Kemp at the state convention, and the recent issue of Brian Kemp adviser Cody Hall joining team DeSantis while remaining a Kemp advisor.
Instead, this recent discussion which outlined details of “Closed-door Meetings Held Between DeSantis, Georgia Leadership and Kemp Immediately Following Legislative Session” warrants some attention.
[Via Georgia Record] – […] Brian K. Pritchard disclosed the meetings during his comments on The Georgia 2024 Show today. Mr. Pritchard explained that the day after the Georgia legislative session ended Gov. Ron DeSantis showed up in The Georgia Capitol building and was ushered into a series of closed-door meetings. These included a session with Republican Senators, a meeting with a group of Georgia House Members and House Leader Jon Burns, and a private lunch with Gov. Brian Kemp.
The subject of each of these discussions has been kept private, but clearly there was a reason and agenda for DeSantis to visit the Georgia Capitol.
Watch the video beginning at 29:00 {Direct Rumble Link}.
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Essentially what Brian K Pritchard outlines is some of the more recent boots on the ground data evidence that reconciles why Ron DeSantis and the Never Back Down PAC are so focused on Georgia in their talking points.
The Sea Island group of billionaires, influence agents, GOPe politicians, multinationals, Wall Street hedge funds and corporate republicans are manipulating the events in Georgia to support the roadmap that contains their nominee, Ron DeSantis.
Again, for reference, this is not a short-term issue. This is a long-term construct on behalf of the right-wing of the UniParty and the Bush clan apparatus to remove the threat of MAGA politics from their controlled party.
DeSantis is a tool, a vessel for these interests. The absentee Florida governor is not their candidate per se’, because the benefit DeSantis provides is not contained in his winning the 2024 primary, but rather in stopping Donald Trump from winning it.
In 2010 the Tea Party caught the corporate Republican party off guard, they reassembled their machinery and then attacked and removed the Tea Party influence in 2012. In 2016 the counterinsurgent Tea Party base found a way to fight back with Donald Trump; we reassembled and added more support from the middle and working class around the America First agenda and defeated Wall Street republicans again. However, every moment thereafter has been this battle between the party control operatives and the MAGA insurgents.
That battle has continued, and Georgia is the latest visible evidence of the war raging in the background.
We told you this was going to be very ugly, and it is unfolding exactly as we would expect.
It will get worse, much worse.
The key to defeating these Machiavellian constructs is to pour sunlight upon them.
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The look of bitter hatred when the loyalty issue is raised!
One of the Republicans who lost one of the Senate Races was Mehmet Oz, Gee How did that happen ? /sarcasm
At least Herschel Walker lost to a preacher who could talk, Mehmet Oz lost to a guy who nearly died from a stroke and could not and still can’t talk.
Imagine a politician who can’t talk and he wins US Senate race.
How bad of a candidate do you have to be to lose to that guy.
How about a Muslim from New Jersey who couldn't even get an endorsement from Blowprah who made him famous via her tv show?
You're apparently not familiar with Pennsylvania, and Filthadelphia and Harrisburg in particular.
I don't think even Crook County was ever that bold in rigging their "elections".
A total "In Your Face".
The Democrat Nazis march in lockstep.
A certain amount of that is true, but Dr. Oz was a terrible candidate who I think didn’t really live in Pennsylvania, he basically lost to a corpse.
The credulous believe that voting still matters.
DeSantis has become a politican. JEB was at his inauguration. That said it all to me.
Over half of the 752,000 voters who voted in the presidential election but sat out the runoffs were white and disproportionately hailed from strongly Republican rural areas that backed Trump in 2020, particularly in northwest and southeast Georgia.
The areas with the least amount of voter drop-off between the presidential and runoff elections tended to be more nonwhite and Democratic-leaning, including the rapidly blue-trending Atlanta metro area and predominantly Black regions of southwest Georgia.
Trump told David Drucker of the Washington Examiner, "They didn't want to vote, because they knew they got screwed in the presidential election."
Nah, it couldn't have been Trump.
First, Taft would have had to get elected. He wasn’t a popular war hero, like Eisenhower, and would have been subject to low attacks from Democrats that didn’t affect Ike’s campaign.
Secondly, he would have had to win Congress. Taft didn’t have the coattails Eisenhower did. The Taft-Hartley Act was a big bugaboo for labor unions and they would have gone all out to beat Taft.
Third, if Taft tried to repeal the New Deal he would have lost some Republican votes in Congress and wouldn’t have picked up as many Southern Democrat votes as you think. At that time, Southern Democrats were “conservative” in terms of not wanting more big government, but not conservative in terms of wanting less government. They had been elected with FDR. They voted for him. Their constituents had voted for him. Were they really going to vote to repeal TVA, Social Security, the SEC, FDIC.
Fourth, Taft would have had to live. He didn’t last out the Summer of 53. Whether he knew it or not he was dying, so maybe Eisenhower did Taft and his family a favor.
Fifth, what does it really mean to repeal the New Deal?
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You are correct when you state the labor unions would have fought Taft fiercely. However, the Taft-Hartley Act passed in 1947, with 106 out of 177 Democrats in the House, and 20 out of 42 Democrats in the Senate, plus almost all Republicans, overriding President Truman's veto.
As for the South, the liberal-conservative divide was inside the Democratic Party. Some Democrats, like Willis Robertson of Virginia, Sam Ervin of North Carolina, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, and Coke Stevenson of Texas, were more conservative than many Republicans.
While alternative history is only speculation, the 1952 election was the best chance we had to overturn the overreach of the Federal government.
>>”LOL! Trump himself endorsed Stacey Abrams.”
No, he never endorsed Stacey Abrams. He did say:
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“And Stacey Abrams, who still has not conceded, and that’s OK,” Trump said of the former state senator. “Stacey, would you like to take his place? It’s OK with me.”
” … Of course having her, I think, might be better than having your existing governor, if you want to know what I think. Might very well be better.”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/politics/donald-trump-brian-kemp-stacey-abrams/index.html
Hardly an endorsement. This is as much an endorsement of Stacey Abrams as Trump saying “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 [Clinton]emails that are missing” was collusion with Russia. mr
With Republicans like Kemp and Raffensperger, Republican control is overrated.
Do you honestly think Trump wanted Kemp to win? Not a chance. He wanted him soundly defeated so that he could say, "This is what happens when you cross me! You lose!"
Not only did he want Abrams to win, he said as much.
Kemp getting re-elected was a humiliation for Trump.
>>”Not only did he want Abrams to win, he said as much.”
Maybe he did, or maybe he was trying to make a point about how useless Kemp is. Not everything Trump says is meant to be taken literally. He exaggerates, jokes, uses hyperbole, and most people get it. The truth is, there’s little difference between Kemp and Abrams, as far as their willingness to tolerate corruption and voter fraud.
The people of Georgia must see it differently considering they voted for Kemp twice over Stacy Abrams
Voters are forced to choose the lesser of two evils all the time.
In Georgia’s case Kemp and Raffensberger both defeated Trump endorsed primarily candidates easily, were Kemp and Raffensberger both the lesser of two evils over the Trump endorsed candidates
>>”were Kemp and Raffensberger both the lesser of two evils over the Trump endorsed candidates”
Not in my opinion. And how did we get into this discussion? I said that with Republicans like Kemp and Raffensperger, Republican control is overrated. I stand by that. If Georgia Republican voters are foolish enough to renominate two Republicans who refused to do anything to investigate the clear election fraud in 2020, that’s on them. I’m not going to applaud them for it.
Of course, it’s also conceivable that Kemp and Raffensperger
benefitted from the very type of fraud they were so successful at not investigating.
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