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There is a Reason Ron DeSantis Keeps Talking About Georgia
The Last Refuge ^ | July 30, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 07/31/2023 7:48:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: srmanuel; Lurker
One of the Republicans who lost one of the Senate Races was Herschel Walker, Gee How did that happen ? /sarcasm

One of the Republicans who lost one of the Senate Races was Mehmet Oz, Gee How did that happen ? /sarcasm

  

81 posted on 07/31/2023 2:16:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

At least Herschel Walker lost to a preacher who could talk, Mehmet Oz lost to a guy who nearly died from a stroke and could not and still can’t talk.

Imagine a politician who can’t talk and he wins US Senate race.

How bad of a candidate do you have to be to lose to that guy.


82 posted on 07/31/2023 2:19:57 PM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel
How bad of a candidate do you have to be to lose to that guy.

How about a Muslim from New Jersey who couldn't even get an endorsement from Blowprah who made him famous via her tv show?

83 posted on 07/31/2023 2:22:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: srmanuel; Lurker
Imagine a politician who can’t talk and he wins US Senate race.

You're apparently not familiar with Pennsylvania, and Filthadelphia and Harrisburg in particular.

I don't think even Crook County was ever that bold in rigging their "elections".

A total "In Your Face".

84 posted on 07/31/2023 2:24:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: nascarnation
How about a Muslim from New Jersey who couldn't even get an endorsement from Blowprah who made him famous via her tv show?

The Democrat Nazis march in lockstep.

85 posted on 07/31/2023 2:24:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

A certain amount of that is true, but Dr. Oz was a terrible candidate who I think didn’t really live in Pennsylvania, he basically lost to a corpse.


86 posted on 07/31/2023 2:39:24 PM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel
A certain amount of that is true, but Dr. Oz was a terrible candidate who I think didn’t really live in Pennsylvania, he basically lost to a corpse.

The credulous believe that voting still matters.

87 posted on 07/31/2023 2:43:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: SoConPubbie

DeSantis has become a politican. JEB was at his inauguration. That said it all to me.


88 posted on 07/31/2023 2:48:08 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: kiryandil
I've been told that it's "conspiratorial thinking" to notice how things in the US Senate races in Georgia turned out exactly the way it benefited the national Democrat Party the most. And that it's "Trump's fault®".

Over half of the 752,000 voters who voted in the presidential election but sat out the runoffs were white and disproportionately hailed from strongly Republican rural areas that backed Trump in 2020, particularly in northwest and southeast Georgia.

The areas with the least amount of voter drop-off between the presidential and runoff elections tended to be more nonwhite and Democratic-leaning, including the rapidly blue-trending Atlanta metro area and predominantly Black regions of southwest Georgia.

Trump told David Drucker of the Washington Examiner, "They didn't want to vote, because they knew they got screwed in the presidential election."

Nah, it couldn't have been Trump.

89 posted on 07/31/2023 3:14:50 PM PDT by Mervin Milgrim
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To: Wallace T.

First, Taft would have had to get elected. He wasn’t a popular war hero, like Eisenhower, and would have been subject to low attacks from Democrats that didn’t affect Ike’s campaign.

Secondly, he would have had to win Congress. Taft didn’t have the coattails Eisenhower did. The Taft-Hartley Act was a big bugaboo for labor unions and they would have gone all out to beat Taft.

Third, if Taft tried to repeal the New Deal he would have lost some Republican votes in Congress and wouldn’t have picked up as many Southern Democrat votes as you think. At that time, Southern Democrats were “conservative” in terms of not wanting more big government, but not conservative in terms of wanting less government. They had been elected with FDR. They voted for him. Their constituents had voted for him. Were they really going to vote to repeal TVA, Social Security, the SEC, FDIC.

Fourth, Taft would have had to live. He didn’t last out the Summer of 53. Whether he knew it or not he was dying, so maybe Eisenhower did Taft and his family a favor.

Fifth, what does it really mean to repeal the New Deal?


90 posted on 07/31/2023 4:17:11 PM PDT by x
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To: Mervin Milgrim
Welcome to Free Republic, Mervin!

FR born-on date: 2023-07-29


91 posted on 07/31/2023 5:52:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: x
Much would have depended on whom Taft would have chosen as his VP would tell if a reduction of the New Deal could have been accomplished, as he died in 1953. If, for example, Taft had chosen the conservative William Knowland as VP, he might have had the same fortitude Calvin Coolidge had to pursue conservative policies. As for the Solid South, it was slipping even in 1944 and 1948. By 1952, Eisenhower had flipped several Southern and Border states that had been previously Democratic. A Taft-Knowland ticket, free of "Yankees" from the Northeast like Thomas Dewey, may have accomplished much the same GOP gains.

You are correct when you state the labor unions would have fought Taft fiercely. However, the Taft-Hartley Act passed in 1947, with 106 out of 177 Democrats in the House, and 20 out of 42 Democrats in the Senate, plus almost all Republicans, overriding President Truman's veto.

As for the South, the liberal-conservative divide was inside the Democratic Party. Some Democrats, like Willis Robertson of Virginia, Sam Ervin of North Carolina, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, and Coke Stevenson of Texas, were more conservative than many Republicans.

While alternative history is only speculation, the 1952 election was the best chance we had to overturn the overreach of the Federal government.

92 posted on 07/31/2023 6:16:09 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Drew68

>>”LOL! Trump himself endorsed Stacey Abrams.”

No, he never endorsed Stacey Abrams. He did say:

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“And Stacey Abrams, who still has not conceded, and that’s OK,” Trump said of the former state senator. “Stacey, would you like to take his place? It’s OK with me.”

” … Of course having her, I think, might be better than having your existing governor, if you want to know what I think. Might very well be better.”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/politics/donald-trump-brian-kemp-stacey-abrams/index.html

Hardly an endorsement. This is as much an endorsement of Stacey Abrams as Trump saying “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 [Clinton]emails that are missing” was collusion with Russia. mr


93 posted on 07/31/2023 6:16:10 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: srmanuel

With Republicans like Kemp and Raffensperger, Republican control is overrated.


94 posted on 07/31/2023 6:37:19 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
Hardly an endorsement.

Do you honestly think Trump wanted Kemp to win? Not a chance. He wanted him soundly defeated so that he could say, "This is what happens when you cross me! You lose!"

Not only did he want Abrams to win, he said as much.

Kemp getting re-elected was a humiliation for Trump.

95 posted on 07/31/2023 8:09:07 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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To: Drew68

>>”Not only did he want Abrams to win, he said as much.”

Maybe he did, or maybe he was trying to make a point about how useless Kemp is. Not everything Trump says is meant to be taken literally. He exaggerates, jokes, uses hyperbole, and most people get it. The truth is, there’s little difference between Kemp and Abrams, as far as their willingness to tolerate corruption and voter fraud.


96 posted on 07/31/2023 8:15:58 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

The people of Georgia must see it differently considering they voted for Kemp twice over Stacy Abrams


97 posted on 07/31/2023 10:40:28 PM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel

Voters are forced to choose the lesser of two evils all the time.


98 posted on 07/31/2023 10:52:16 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

In Georgia’s case Kemp and Raffensberger both defeated Trump endorsed primarily candidates easily, were Kemp and Raffensberger both the lesser of two evils over the Trump endorsed candidates


99 posted on 08/01/2023 1:10:53 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel

>>”were Kemp and Raffensberger both the lesser of two evils over the Trump endorsed candidates”

Not in my opinion. And how did we get into this discussion? I said that with Republicans like Kemp and Raffensperger, Republican control is overrated. I stand by that. If Georgia Republican voters are foolish enough to renominate two Republicans who refused to do anything to investigate the clear election fraud in 2020, that’s on them. I’m not going to applaud them for it.

Of course, it’s also conceivable that Kemp and Raffensperger
benefitted from the very type of fraud they were so successful at not investigating.


100 posted on 08/01/2023 2:48:10 AM PDT by mbrfl
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