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The Supreme Court Should Strike A Blow Against Wealth Taxes
Real Clear Markets ^ | 07/09/2023 | Andrew Wilford

Posted on 07/09/2023 9:37:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: theyreallthesame

Or education level. It wouldn’t matter you worked at a burger joint, if you had a degree, you should be paying ‘this’ much.


21 posted on 07/10/2023 2:47:27 AM PDT by brooklin
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To: Repeal The 17th

Before long they will begin taxing infants for their potential future income.


22 posted on 07/10/2023 3:36:20 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and hate you for it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Federal judges salaries are derived through federal taxation. They will never make a ruling to limit federal taxes


23 posted on 07/10/2023 3:47:20 AM PDT by Cowman
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To: SeekAndFind
Couldn’t someone make the same argument supporting “unrealized income” tax for those graduates of law schools? Average base salary for lawyers $99,308 while the average base salary for all workers is $49,764. 🧐

After all it’s for the children......

24 posted on 07/10/2023 3:52:15 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: CatOwner

This year the IRS changed rules on trusts and the stepped up basis for assets.


25 posted on 07/10/2023 4:35:44 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SeekAndFind

Simply put ... FedGov wants to tax you today for earnings you may realize tomorrow.


26 posted on 07/10/2023 5:29:24 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: theyreallthesame

That is not the intent. Gov’mt wants to collect taxes on every increase in your stock’s values.

If it goes up on Tuesday record that for your tax return. If it goes down on Wed, ignore. If it recovers on Thursday, again record that for taxes. Basically, every time any asset goes up the Gov’mt gets their cut.

That is the intent. Nothing to do with your trying to realize(cash in) the asset.

In general, there is already a precedent for a widespread wealth tax: property tax on homes. REgardless of appreciation or otherwise, Gov’mt gets a cut. If you don’t pay they seize the property.
None of this has anything to do with income. It is all about taking from you so Gov’mt can give (& skim) to others.


27 posted on 07/10/2023 5:31:51 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Repeal The 17th

In line with your moniker, we should repeal the 16th along with the 17th. They were the strong two step progressive “reforms” of the progressives in the early 1900s. Calvin Coolidge called them out in his speech marking the 150th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in 1926. I posted it on my social media last week, and it foretold current day problems.

In short, the principal points were:

“• The Declaration is the preeminent support for free government around the world.

“• We celebrate the American Revolution because it represents the convictions of an independent, liberty loving, God-fearing people who knew their rights and had the courage to maintain them.

“• Our institutions subsequent to the Declaration have stood the test of time. They have advanced civilization.

“• Take time to turn off the noise of partisan politics and find solace and consolation in our two great charters of freedom, the Declaration and Constitution. Together, they will always provide adequate defense from all dangers.

“• The Declaration is the outward manifestation of the desire of all men to be free.

“• Like no other revolutionary movement in history before or since, not only did the Declaration liberate a people, it ennobled humanity.

“• Great ideas are always reached by a gradual development over a length of time usually proportionate to their importance. This is especially true of the principles laid down in the Declaration. Three very definite propositions were set out in its preamble regarding the nature of mankind and therefore of government. These were the doctrine that all men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain inalienable rights, and that therefore the source of the just powers of government must be derived from the consent of the governed.

“• About the Declaration there is a finality that is exceedingly restful. It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning cannot be applied to this great charter.

“• If all men are created equal, that is final.

“• If they are endowed with unalienable rights, that is final.

“• If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final.

“• No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but retrograde.

“• From the contemplation of these truths the Founders made their Declaration and adopted their Constitution. It was to establish a free government, which must not be permitted to degenerate into the unrestrained authority of a mere majority or the unbridled weight of a mere influential few.”

If the reader takes nothing else from this squib, I hope it is the sentences above. Keep them in your hip pocket and ready to throw in the face of your hopeless straying Leftist friends and relatives this Independence Day. These are the truths that the Left denies. In the name of ill-defined and ever-changing social justice, perverted progressives strive to enslave the once freest nation on earth. We can stop these destroyers of all that is good and decent from progressing our Declaration and Constitution.

Article V.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/address-the-celebration-the-150th-anniversary-the-declaration-independence-philadelphia


28 posted on 07/10/2023 5:44:29 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The problem with taxing unrealized gains is that it will result in people being forced to sell their investments to raise the cash to pay the tax on the unrealized gains.

Wouldn't it logically force the government to pay or give tax credits annually to those whose investments (or any other assets however valued) had dropped in value?

It would be an accounting nightmare!

29 posted on 07/10/2023 6:04:02 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

Property tax is a tax on unrealized gains based on a mythical assessment of what you “might” sell your home for. It is also a tax on inflation. It is also a repeated tax on the same asset.

Inheritance taxes are taxes on what’s left after taxes have already been paid on the income that produced the assets.

Ever notice how you NEVER get to vote on your level of taxation?


30 posted on 07/10/2023 6:22:50 AM PDT by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oral arguments for this case should be interesting.


31 posted on 07/10/2023 8:34:26 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

A wealth tax would guarantee that the wealthy would hire tax attorneys to help them hide their wealth though an infinite variety of tax avoidance schemes—including of course moving those assets that can be moved offshore.

It is the middle class that ultimately gets crushed with such schemes.


32 posted on 07/10/2023 8:38:10 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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