Posted on 03/05/2023 3:45:00 PM PST by delta7
For the first time in the century of US warfare against Russia, a sitting US president has requested and received a formal ceasefire and safe conduct pledge (propusk) from the Kremlin in order for him to visit a third country. President Vladimir Putin signed his authorization for the pass before it was transmitted to the Oval Office in Washington last Friday morning, according to the New York Times, “when the president gathered with a handful of top advisers in the Oval Office and consulted with others by phone.”
The newspaper also reported the Russian terms required Biden’s signed undertaking in advance that no US military or civilian aircraft would enter Ukrainian airspace during the 24-hour duration of the safe conduct pass. The New York Times confirmed this detail, claiming “American military planes were spotted hovering in eastern Poland near the border during the trip, but officials said they never entered Ukrainian airspace out of concern that it would be taken as the sort of direct American intervention that Mr. Biden has avoided.”
CBS News has reported the National Security Adviser, Jake Sullivan, as confirming the application to the Kremlin and the receipt of the reply several hours before Biden agreed to make his trip to the Ukraine. “’We did notify the Russians that President Biden would be traveling to Kyiv,’ Sullivan told CBS News chief White House correspondent Nancy Cordes. ‘We did so some hours before his departure for deconfliction purposes. And because of the sensitive nature of those communications, I won’t get into how they responded or what the precise nature of our message was, but I can confirm that we provided that notification.’”
This is the first time White House officials have publicly confirmed accepting Putin’s word on a diplomatic, military, or security issue. Biden responded in Kiev with a personal attack on Putin: “Putin thought Ukraine was weak and the West was divided,” Biden said. “He thought he could outlast us. I don’t think he’s thinking that right now. God knows what he’s thinking, but I don’t think he’s thinking that. But he’s just been plain wrong. Plain wrong. And one year later, the evidence is right here in this room. We stand here together.”
The record of the White House-Kremlin exchange for Biden’s propusk also reveals Putin’s willingness to accept Biden’s word. But four days later on February 21, in his speech to the Federal Assembly, Putin declared: “The concepts of honour, trust, and decency are not for them…[nor] of [their] total, unprincipled lies.”
The Russian press has not reported the Putin propusk. But there is speculation in Moscow the clash of public statements and the contradiction between them and the private safe conduct agreement are a sign of secret negotiations on armistice terms between the Americans and Russians, which Biden also promised Putin to put to Ukrainian officials in Kiev. Last Friday, February 17, Putin was busy in meetings with the Belarus President, Alexander Lukashenko, which were held at the Novo-Ogarevo residence outside Moscow. The Kremlin communiqué, issued at 15:15 – that was 07:15 Washington time – did not refer to the war.
The Kremlin record is silent on whether Putin’s safe conduct pass for Biden is included among the papers visible on the table between Lukashenko and Putin. Source: http://en.kremlin.ru/
Until CBS broadcast Sullivan’s admissions on the evening of February 20, the White House had successfully deceived the New York Times, Washington Post and the mainstream Anglo-American media into reporting Biden’s trip to Kiev as a surprise — “a show of defiance of Moscow quickly beamed around the world”, and “an audacious move meant to demonstrate American resolve to help Ukraine defeat the Russian forces”.
Peter Baker, one of the New York Times reporters Seymour Hersh endorsed last week as “bright”, published the claim that “for much of the past year, in fact, most of the people around the president resisted any urge to go, on the assumption that it was too risky. But nearly a year after the Russian invasion, with Ukrainian troops faring far better than anyone expected at the start and other American and European leaders having made the trip, Mr. Biden and his team gambled that he could get in and out safely.” Baker and his newspaper had missed the fact, and also the significance, that Biden had asked, Putin had agreed, to assure the US president’s security, removing thereby what Baker and his newspaper called their gamble.
The New York Times published this photograph of the empty blue sky above Biden and Zelensky in Kiev, claiming in the text: “The White House was so intent on keeping the secret that it lied to reporters back in Washington. About four hours after Mr. Biden crossed the border into Ukraine, his office back in Washington issued a public schedule falsely stating that the president was still in the nation’s capital and not planning to leave for Europe until Monday evening.” Baker’s report concluded with the newspaper’s notice on how it had verified his reporting of the secret Biden had asked Putin to keep. And he still has.
Also fooled into publishing false propaganda of Biden’s trip to Kiev were The Times of London, owned by Rupert Murdoch, and the Financial Times, owned by the Nikkei Corporation of Tokyo.
According to Financial Times reporters in Kiev, Warsaw and Riga, Latvia, “US President Joe Biden made a surprise visit to Kyiv on Monday in a show of American commitment… On a trip shrouded by secrecy for security reasons…the visit resembled previous US presidents’ clandestine wartime trips to Iraq and Afghanistan — but was more daring since US troops were not on the ground to help provide support.” Source: https://www.ft.com/ The Washington Post ignored the Kiev trip except to claim that during Biden’s visit, he and Zelensky “walked the city streets as an air raid siren blared.”
The Post omitted to republish the video clip of the two men walking, Biden displaying a neurologically symptomatic foot shuffle and Zelensky warning him against tripping as they approached a low curb step:
On big con-job. In every direction, Americans are being economically gang raped by these lying globalist.
On big con-job. In every direction, Americans are being economically gang raped by these lying globalist.
“No, we didn’t; because we didn’t have to.”
I didn’t write the article.
“China is building a huge military. That ought to worry everyone.”
It does indeed. The one consoling factor is that for the last several hundred years China has sucked at war.
Double post again. It’s my Communist Chinese made mouse! Did anyone else notice everything we buy, see and touch is from Communist China? HITF did we get to this fatal nose dive?
Double post again. It’s my Communist Chinese made mouse! Did anyone else notice everything we buy, see and touch is from Communist China? HITF did we get to this fatal nose dive?
I take that to mean that Russians view the idea of shooting the doofless idiot as counter-productive from their standpoint...
“I didn’t write the article.”
But it was YOU who was adamant that we got permission from Russia for Biden to go to Kyiv (your post #56). Is your attention span so disintegrated with all the smack coursing through your one remaining vein that you can’t remember what you posted six minutes earlier?
That monster
You are very excited this evening.
The US did ask for a passage.
That’s all.
READ the article, or have someone read it to you, considering your condition.
“You are very excited this evening.”
I wish. It’s been years since I got excited about anything.
“The US did ask for a passage.”
No, it didn’t. It is standard diplomatic protocol to notify warring countries of the head-of-state of a non-belligerent’s plans to visit one of those warring countries. It’s basically a “head’s up” to the warring countries.
It is more than that.
Much more.
I would say Joe Biden has us about neck-deep in this crap situation.
To call the US “non-warring” is a bit of the most naive statement I have ever heard.
I take it you would hate this action were Trump the President.
“We don’t need Russia’s permission to enter any independent country; we’d need consent from the head of state of the country we intended to visit. It is standard diplomatic protocol to notify countries who are at war with the country being visited; but we do not need the permission of those warring countries.”
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IF UKRAINE INVADES TRANSNISTRIA should international sanctions be applied to Ukraine, all Ukrainian assets frozen and ALL further military supplies to Ukraine be immediately TOTALLY ceased?
As for me, I’d say for honesty and consistency, such actions should be taken IMMEDIATELY.
“Good point. Russia’s debt to GDP is 15%…the US is over 100 %, EU 80-110 %.
Think about that, Russia continues to fill their pockets in profits, the West going down the drain with unpayable debt…..”
Russia has an economy smaller then that of Canada’s and is currently engaged in a major war with a nation supported by some of the richest nations in the world. The US could increase its debt by 1% in supporting Ukraine and that amount of money would bankrupt Russia if it tried to match.
“READ the article, or have someone read it to you, considering your condition.”
I read the article, Sparky.
FTA: “For the first time in the century of US warfare against Russia, a sitting US president has requested and received a formal ceasefire and safe conduct pledge (propusk) from the Kremlin in order for him to visit a third country.”
That was the opening sentence. It lends the author no credibility at all: We have not been engaged in warfare with Russia for 100 years; and a sitting US president doesn’t have to request a formal ceasefire and safe conduct pledge from Russia to visit a third country.
It is standard diplomatic protocol to notify a warring country of the intent to visit a country against whom that warring country is waging war. The warring country will say, “We won’t shoot you down;” or, it will say, “We will shoot you down;” or, it can say, “It’s a very dangerous and hostile environment and you travel at your own risk.” In this instance, Putin said, “We won’t shoot you down.” That is a far cry from PERMISSION.
Wow. Your history teachers have failed you in every form.
Full Disclosure; Red Flag-Green Flag.
Bombing Range Chief.
“To call the US “non-warring” is a bit of the most naive statement I have ever heard.”
Then you suffer naiveté to the nth degree, as you see it in everything.
We are not at war with Russia. We have committed no combat troops or combat aircraft flown by US crews against Russia. We are supplying one of the combatant countries with weapons and supplies, as have several other countries. By your logic China, North Korea, and Iran are “warring countries” in the Russo-Ukraine War. Is that your position?
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