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To: pierrem15

“The notion that Chinese or Russian victory will help us is utter kookery.”

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I don’t know of anyone saying a Russia or China victory will help us. So, who are you commenting to, there?

What I do know is we are in WWIII and we started it and have been working on fomenting it for decades and from multiple angles.

I also know there’s no stopping this doomsday train, under this administration. There may be no stopping it under the next administration, if we survive as a superpower force until then and depending on whether or not we get an administration serious about peace.


79 posted on 02/21/2023 10:13:59 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

Then I misunderstood you earlier. And I do not think we have been fomenting WWIII except accidentally, which is to say by weakness and by our elite’s incompetent conduct of war and corrupt control of our economy, allowing China to rape it for 25 years.


81 posted on 02/21/2023 10:31:06 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: jimwatx; jospehm20; Repealthe17thAmendment; erlayman; bitt; Revel

1.) But...but... but, Russia invaded Ukraine!!!

Jens Stoltenberg effectively ended the Biden administration saying Russia started this:

He Did It Again – General Secretary [NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg] Admits NATO Has Been at War Against Russia in Ukraine Since 2014
2/18/2023

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/18/he-did-it-again-general-secretary-admits-nato-has-been-at-war-against-russia-in-ukraine-since-2014/

2/2.) The Nuland call leak, the Color Revolution in Ukraine, and news outlets reporting on the Obama administration supporting a coup in Ukraine might cause some people to think if some in the U.S. don’t like an election they’ll just support a coup, so what did Russia think? What do other countries think who are being pulled into China and Russia’s spheres of influence by Dems like Obama and Biden? Did they think they were next fir a coup? Do they think Obama, Biden, Bush, whomever really believe in “sovereignty”?

3.) Some argue that eastern Europeans have been desperate to get in to NATO, but they don’t answer if NATO took advantage of them, don’t answer should NATO have done this, nor answer what I believe is George HW Bush saying that NATO had no intention of honoring not moving east towards Russia when James Baker and others were meeting with their Russian counterparts during Berlin reunification talks.

4.) Pointing these things out is followed by neocons/neolibs immediately attacking, deflecting to take attention off of the Obama and Biden administratiins, you get called a Putin supporter, the same as being called a Saddam supporter for being opposed to the war in Iraq.


85 posted on 02/21/2023 11:37:01 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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