Posted on 12/05/2022 11:44:21 AM PST by fugazi
F.D.R.’S WAR PLANS! GOAL IS 10 MILLION ARMED MEN; HALF TO FIGHT IN AEF
These are the headlines published in yesterday’s Chicago Tribune. Considering Dec. 7 is now just two days away, the leak of our highly classified war strategy to defeat Nazi Germany is a brief but fascinating story of the American charter of World War II. You may find it interesting to read about the story in real-time in our newspaper (see pages two and eight in today’s edition), or skip to the end to find out more on those involved.
You can see from War Secretary Henry L. Stimson’s comments the administration is downplaying the importance of the leaked plans. They have to.
What leaked to the Chicago Tribune was not theory; it was our official, in-place war strategy.
As an American living in 1941, I think I would be livid if our government had no plan for war against countries whose forces had already attacked us regardless of my support for isolationism. Yes, our armed forces had basic war plans for many nations — even our neighbors and allies, who may have had plans to defeat us as well. We will cover these plans in a forthcoming post.
You may be thinking this report probably didn’t contain anything our enemies didn’t already know. Berlin surely had an idea how many tanks and planes were rolling out of the factories each month, but they didn’t know with any certainty how we planned to attack, how many men would mobilize, and perhaps most importantly, how long until Hitler had to account for American troops in his war plans.
Did the American public deserve to know, as Chicago Tribune owner and publisher Robert R. “Colonel” McCormick1 determined
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That’s OK FDR knew of the attack. All part of the plan.
I thought AEF was from WWI.
Well, they knew something was coming, either in Hawaii or further west. The entrenched communist sympathizers and spies in the various government agencies and on FDR’s staff were doing everything they could to get the war ‘hot’, so as to more directly aid the Soviets.
You’d think this nation would get tired of being played in order to get into wars around the world. It’s been happening since 1898 on a regular basis.
That is in dispute by historians. However, there is good evidence that there was a Soviet agent within FDR's administration (Harry Dexter White) that surreptitiously sabotaged the pre-war treaty negotiations between the Japanese and the US to spark the Japanese to launch the attack. The goal was to cause a conflict between the US and Japan so the Russians would not be forced to fight on two fronts.
FDR tried to warn America of the attack,
But, the Japanese got him put in Twitter Jail until December 11th.
At least FDR had his fireside chats on TV in 1929.
World War I was about as long ago to someone in 1941 as 9/11 is to us. Everyone likely knew someone who suffered or at least fought, meaning there was a personal emotional connection to a lot of people who would see this as another European problem. So referring to it as an American Expeditionary Force was an effective way to frame it from the Tribune’s perspective.
Also, nice nickname. I’d love to see the 17th Amendment repealed and have written articles to that point.
FDR was a closet Red. So was Averell Harriman.
I remember December 7th, 1941 as if it was just yesterday...
I was an 8-year-old and still remember my Dad, Mom, brother, and me huddled around the radio trying to make sense of what we were hearing...
2.5 months later (February 1942) my Dad was in the Marine Corps...
My mother was about to start training to work as a welder in a defense plant...
My brother and I went to live with our grandparents...
Except for a 10-say leave in April 1942, we didn’t see my dad again until January 1946...
It’s interesting to discover the media has not altered their role as traitors since December 5th, 1941.
FDR goaded the Japanese to attack our fleet at Pearl Harbor. What he missed was how very capable the Japanese were. Kimmel was deliberately kept in the dark and took the blame.
With hindsight leaking the war plans can seem traitorous. But I can see an editor (McCormick) who actually fought in the First World War wanting to keep American men from dying in another unnecessary and horrendously grisly European war. The Germans and the Soviets were both bad (and basically allies before Hitler ordered the invasion), so no great loss there. We did not yet understand the that the Nazi Party wanted to completely rid the world of Jews, so there wasn’t that clear good versus evil distinction yet. Sending tanks and planes was certainly preferable to shipping another generation of young men to Europe to become cannon fodder.
Libtards would do it again today make no mistake about it they’ll sell us out
And reportedly VP Henry Wallace.
Kimmel did take the blame for Pearl Harbor and that had to have been heartbreaking. Replace him with anyone else and they would have done pretty much exactly what he did. Kimmel was basically exonerated when they conducted a study to find what went wrong at Pearl Harbor, but he was sacrificed to protect America’s trust in FDR, to the degree that Washington wouldn’t clear his name even after the war.
Was he deliberately kept in the dark and FDR somehow knew that the Japanese were planning an attack? No way. Like 9/11, we knew an attack was coming, but we didn’t know when and where. Attacking Pearl Harbor made little strategic sense, and despite the emotional shock, the losses were quickly replaced and it galvanized our will to fight.
What it comes down to is an incredible job of the Japanese to sneak their fleet out of Japan undetected and continue across the North Pacific during Winter, a very difficult task considering how hard it would be to navigate through storms without stars for much of the journey and to do so under total radio silence. We can’t even keep our ships from banging together nowadays with GPS and computers, despite it being peacetime. The fact that they arrived where they intended without being spotted took an incredible amount of skill and luck (we couldn’t cross the Pacific without being spotted for the Doolittle Raid).
We think that because Japan was so successful that it had to have been because FDR secretly knew or that our generals and admirals let us down. That, to me, is narcissistic. Bottom line is the Japanese were so successful because they were very good, and were willing to carry out a sneak attack.
“...wanting to keep American men from dying in another unnecessary and horrendously grisly European war.”
I get the point...and I understand. I wasn’t “anti-war” when I was younger, but that has changed. The lives lost and damaged, as a result of America’s “wars”, is just overwhelming. America has done a real disservice to our youth.
Anydamnbody who causes American fighting men to be killed needs to be immediately put against a wall and shot.
I remember reading “The Battle of The Hurtgen Forest by historian Charles Whiting and in it he details how the Tribune was going on and on about how American soldiers were killing “Old German men and boys who were just trying to surrender.’’
GI’s were infuriated by this garbage. Never mind the ‘’old German men and boys’’ had been mowing down American soldiers like wheat, leave it to a liberal rag to take up the enemy's cause.
General Patton finally heard about it and declared “I don't care if that Hun bastard is an 80 year syphilitic prick with asthma or a snot nosed kid in short pants. If he's behind four feet of concrete he can pull the trigger on a machine gun and kill my men!''.
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