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The Russian Military Seems to Be in Full Retreat in Ukraine
https://www.19fortyfive.com ^ | 10-5-2022 Published 5 seconds ago | Stavros Atlamazoglou

Posted on 10/05/2022 6:22:08 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Kazan
Russia has only used 10% of its military on the ground.

LOL. Russia hasn't begun to deploy its military, which is why Putin was forced to institute a massively disruptive nationwide draft, sending the country into turmoil and forcing hundreds of thousands of Russian men into exile. Because that's a thing totally-not-desperate people do just because.

61 posted on 10/05/2022 8:30:17 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Golden Eagle

That was in 2010. Ever since Putin invaded in 2014 more and more people who were leaning towards Moscow have moved against Moscow.


62 posted on 10/05/2022 8:51:06 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Golden Eagle

and if you focus on the 2019 election first round

boyko is pro Russian

63 posted on 10/05/2022 8:56:26 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Chewbarkah

The Parthian retreat. That move needs a fast, nimble fighting force.

The current Russian military is the opposite of fast and nimble. And its logistical ability is shite


64 posted on 10/05/2022 8:57:47 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Kazan

Putin doesn’t have a gambit.

This is no strategic retreat, this is full fledged panicky running by the Russians.

Putin is now playing tic tac toe while the Ukrainians are playing chess.


65 posted on 10/05/2022 8:59:41 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
The more the Putin wing complains, the more certain it is how bad it really is for Russia. Their “skepticism” means “denying” any good news for Ukraine, while accepting any news favoring Russia as overwhelmingly good for Russia no matter what happens.

By the way, what happened to all the Russian reversals they said would happen since Kharkiv?

66 posted on 10/05/2022 11:45:13 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: ScottinVA

“THIS is what the Russians and their propaganda pets need to understand:
https://mobile.twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1577412736811929601

Thank you. Tweet is VERY powerful especially the Dr’s analogy.


67 posted on 10/05/2022 11:57:21 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Book says you lose, no matter how many lives you take down with you.


68 posted on 10/06/2022 12:16:34 AM PDT by sumuam
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To: canuck_conservative

Ukraine is winning Big—Nothing can stop the amazing Ukraine Army. All Of the Donbass will fall in a month! The new Russian Conscripts will run at the first sign of a single Ukrainian tank. Wat will be over by The first of November! Then its Crimea and the scuttling of the Black Sea Fleet. Putin will be gone, shot or in jail by Christmas. Wait till the Victorious Ukraine Forces March on Moscow! Nothing can stop them. The Russian army will surrender in mass and the Russian people will greet them as liberators. The Bold flag of Ukraine will fly from the Kremlin. Zelenskyy will be elected President of a greater Ukraine (after a referendum where all the Russian people will vote for a new democratic Nation called The Federation of Ukraine-Russia). President Biden will give the oath to Zelenskyy on Lenin’s Tomb. Soviet Russia will be no more—there will no longer need a NATO Now. 2023 will be a great year. But The USA will need to send 400,000 Billion to rebuild the Ukrainian-Russian State.


69 posted on 10/06/2022 1:15:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade; All

GUR Intercept Call - “I’m sitting in a trench with everyone. I’m crying” (English Translation)
Oct 6, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNfNcFMG3P4


70 posted on 10/06/2022 1:21:54 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: Golden Eagle

Thing with posting disingenuous maps from 2012 is, the electoral map of America would show 3 electoral college votes for Obama for every 2 cast for Romney, and none at all for a Tea Party/Trump leader.

In effect your map shows the same reasoning as the Never Trumpers.

The electoral maps in later elections in both Ukraine and the USA tell completely different stories. As well you know.

Russian leaning sentiments have collapses because of the Special Military Operation. In Zaporizhzhia, only 38000 voted for annexation out of a population of over 900,000. If you want to play silly buggers with statistics, that’s not even 5%.


71 posted on 10/06/2022 1:38:13 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Ukraine War: Russia risks having 15,000 troops cut off
Oct 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWDy54aQBmw

-— 1 hour ago
Mobilized russian soldiers complaining about their conditions (English Translation)
Oct 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zSKrk3HN-w

Ukrainian describes how Russian forces ‘ran’ from town
Oct 5, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cMR7Vo7L0


72 posted on 10/06/2022 1:41:21 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Posts #3 and #18. Heavy flak, check. Over target, confirmed.


73 posted on 10/06/2022 2:47:24 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Kazan
See? It was never about "de-nazification" or "Joining NATO" - it has always been about seizing territory, hasn't it?

Bad enough that you Russians are vicious, murderous, land-grabbing terrorists, but you insist on wrapping everything up with lies (while threatening the rest of the world) while you do it.

74 posted on 10/06/2022 3:28:30 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Yeh, sure that’s the ticket. 🙄


75 posted on 10/06/2022 6:51:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Chainmail

“It was never about “de-nazification” or “Joining NATO” - it has always been about seizing territory, hasn’t it?”

Agree.

PUTIN could stop this INVASION any time. He won’t. Just keeps letting those dead bodies pile up. It’s not like he cares about the Ukrainian or Russian population and military.

CHECK-OUT ARTICLE
“‘I don’t see justice in this war’: Russian soldier exposes rot at core of Ukraine invasion”
“I am not afraid to fight in war. But I need to feel justice, to understand that what I’m doing is right. And I believe that this is all failing not only because the government has stolen everything, but because we, Russians, don’t feel that what we are doing is right.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/i-dont-see-justice-in-this-war-russian-soldier-exposes-rot-at-core-of-ukraine-invasion


76 posted on 10/06/2022 7:42:38 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: Cronos; xkaydet65; ScottinVA

My question was rhetorical, and you have all answered with what I believe to be the case, based on available information. A wild card is whether that information is reliable. In WWII, Soviet forces retreated or were overrun in utter chaos, losing most of their equipment and millions of troops. The Soviets recovered and rearmed, while the Germans overextended their logistics and depleted unreplacable personnel and armaments, then came back with new commanders to lay it on.

The current situation is not strictly analogous, in part because NATO is arming nd helping train a large pool of Ukrainian fighters. My main concern is that the Ukrainians will extend themselves, deplete critical munitions, and worst of all, have to change their m.o. by concentrating forces to occupy and defend cities/hostile territory — the opposite of what has been successful so far. In the meanwhile, Russians might reform, learn something, evolve smarter commanders, and deploy much larger air and missile assets. Obviously, signs of the Russians getting their act together have been sparse. Alternatively, Putin might decide to rain missiles down on Kiev.


77 posted on 10/06/2022 8:34:45 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Russians have been in Ukraine for over 8 years.
They ain’t leaving.


78 posted on 10/06/2022 3:41:53 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

“Russians have been in Ukraine”

Russians are surrendering & becoming Ukrainian citizens.
When Putin is gone, their military will leave.


79 posted on 10/06/2022 7:42:25 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: ScottinVA

Comment #39 “THIS is what the Russians and their propaganda pets need to understand”

This says it all:

Ukrainian and Russian soldiers face off at Belbek
Mar 4, 2014
Russian troops fire warning shots at UNARMED Ukrainian soldiers singing their national anthem, after Ukraines march towards their now Russia-controlled Belbek airbase in Crimea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIbGpSvtuGY


80 posted on 10/06/2022 7:53:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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