Posted on 10/05/2022 6:22:08 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
LOL. Russia hasn't begun to deploy its military, which is why Putin was forced to institute a massively disruptive nationwide draft, sending the country into turmoil and forcing hundreds of thousands of Russian men into exile. Because that's a thing totally-not-desperate people do just because.
That was in 2010. Ever since Putin invaded in 2014 more and more people who were leaning towards Moscow have moved against Moscow.
and if you focus on the 2019 election first round
boyko is pro Russian
The Parthian retreat. That move needs a fast, nimble fighting force.
The current Russian military is the opposite of fast and nimble. And its logistical ability is shite
Putin doesn’t have a gambit.
This is no strategic retreat, this is full fledged panicky running by the Russians.
Putin is now playing tic tac toe while the Ukrainians are playing chess.
By the way, what happened to all the Russian reversals they said would happen since Kharkiv?
“THIS is what the Russians and their propaganda pets need to understand:
https://mobile.twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1577412736811929601“
Thank you. Tweet is VERY powerful especially the Dr’s analogy.
The Book says you lose, no matter how many lives you take down with you.
Ukraine is winning Big—Nothing can stop the amazing Ukraine Army. All Of the Donbass will fall in a month! The new Russian Conscripts will run at the first sign of a single Ukrainian tank. Wat will be over by The first of November! Then its Crimea and the scuttling of the Black Sea Fleet. Putin will be gone, shot or in jail by Christmas. Wait till the Victorious Ukraine Forces March on Moscow! Nothing can stop them. The Russian army will surrender in mass and the Russian people will greet them as liberators. The Bold flag of Ukraine will fly from the Kremlin. Zelenskyy will be elected President of a greater Ukraine (after a referendum where all the Russian people will vote for a new democratic Nation called The Federation of Ukraine-Russia). President Biden will give the oath to Zelenskyy on Lenin’s Tomb. Soviet Russia will be no more—there will no longer need a NATO Now. 2023 will be a great year. But The USA will need to send 400,000 Billion to rebuild the Ukrainian-Russian State.
GUR Intercept Call - “I’m sitting in a trench with everyone. I’m crying” (English Translation)
Oct 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNfNcFMG3P4
Thing with posting disingenuous maps from 2012 is, the electoral map of America would show 3 electoral college votes for Obama for every 2 cast for Romney, and none at all for a Tea Party/Trump leader.
In effect your map shows the same reasoning as the Never Trumpers.
The electoral maps in later elections in both Ukraine and the USA tell completely different stories. As well you know.
Russian leaning sentiments have collapses because of the Special Military Operation. In Zaporizhzhia, only 38000 voted for annexation out of a population of over 900,000. If you want to play silly buggers with statistics, that’s not even 5%.
Ukraine War: Russia risks having 15,000 troops cut off
Oct 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWDy54aQBmw
-— 1 hour ago
Mobilized russian soldiers complaining about their conditions (English Translation)
Oct 6, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zSKrk3HN-w
Ukrainian describes how Russian forces ‘ran’ from town
Oct 5, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cMR7Vo7L0
Posts #3 and #18. Heavy flak, check. Over target, confirmed.
Bad enough that you Russians are vicious, murderous, land-grabbing terrorists, but you insist on wrapping everything up with lies (while threatening the rest of the world) while you do it.
Yeh, sure that’s the ticket. 🙄
“It was never about “de-nazification” or “Joining NATO” - it has always been about seizing territory, hasn’t it?”
Agree.
PUTIN could stop this INVASION any time. He won’t. Just keeps letting those dead bodies pile up. It’s not like he cares about the Ukrainian or Russian population and military.
CHECK-OUT ARTICLE
“‘I don’t see justice in this war’: Russian soldier exposes rot at core of Ukraine invasion”
“I am not afraid to fight in war. But I need to feel justice, to understand that what I’m doing is right. And I believe that this is all failing not only because the government has stolen everything, but because we, Russians, don’t feel that what we are doing is right.”
My question was rhetorical, and you have all answered with what I believe to be the case, based on available information. A wild card is whether that information is reliable. In WWII, Soviet forces retreated or were overrun in utter chaos, losing most of their equipment and millions of troops. The Soviets recovered and rearmed, while the Germans overextended their logistics and depleted unreplacable personnel and armaments, then came back with new commanders to lay it on.
The current situation is not strictly analogous, in part because NATO is arming nd helping train a large pool of Ukrainian fighters. My main concern is that the Ukrainians will extend themselves, deplete critical munitions, and worst of all, have to change their m.o. by concentrating forces to occupy and defend cities/hostile territory — the opposite of what has been successful so far. In the meanwhile, Russians might reform, learn something, evolve smarter commanders, and deploy much larger air and missile assets. Obviously, signs of the Russians getting their act together have been sparse. Alternatively, Putin might decide to rain missiles down on Kiev.
The Russians have been in Ukraine for over 8 years.
They ain’t leaving.
“Russians have been in Ukraine”
Russians are surrendering & becoming Ukrainian citizens.
When Putin is gone, their military will leave.
Comment #39 “THIS is what the Russians and their propaganda pets need to understand”
This says it all:
Ukrainian and Russian soldiers face off at Belbek
Mar 4, 2014
Russian troops fire warning shots at UNARMED Ukrainian soldiers singing their national anthem, after Ukraines march towards their now Russia-controlled Belbek airbase in Crimea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIbGpSvtuGY
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