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To: crz

I haven’t seen a single NATO country accuse the US of this.
Everyone is being mostly silent about any blame except for the usual Russian blame. The evidence for an US strike is huge and no one is talking about it.

I believe this is the biggest story on the planet right now, and I don’t see Denmark or Sweden protecting the site or doing any investigation of the site.


25 posted on 10/02/2022 12:20:37 PM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: Doctor Congo
IMHO, the USN did it.

The western Baltic is a NATO aquarium. USN warships and helos [Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group] spent all summer conducting underwater UUV / ROV drone “mine detection and demolition” drills. You have seen all the news stories. Mines are destroyed by explosives after being located by a UUV. A charted pipeline is 100X easier of a target.

If anybody else tried to explode 4 simultaneous pipeline bombs, in pairs, kilometers apart, (NS1 and NS2), NATO and the USN would know ALL about it.

A medium-size fish cannot swim in and out of the Baltic (50' controlling depth) without being recorded by dozens of sensors.

Russia has bare transit rights [during peacetime] from Kaliningrad and St. Pete, but that is it. Every Russian ship going in and out of the Baltic is virtually escorted front and rear. The Western Baltic is a small lake surrounded by NATO nations, plus NATO-cooperating Sweden and Finland.

The USN did it. Motive (POTUS orders), ability, opportunity, threats made in advance.

I take no joy in saying that, as a long-ago frogman who locked in and out of submerged nuclear submarines, rode in mini-subs (SDVS), trained with every conceivable kind of underwater demolition, and dived with air bottles, mixed gas, and pure oxygen (for no bubbles). IOW, I know whereof I speak.

To believe otherwise than the USN did this is like believing the Russians snuck up the Thames River in mini mystery subs to blow up 4 key British infrastructure sites, at the same time, kilometers apart, and got away undetected.

(I will allow that the USN may have “sheep-dipped” some Poles in on the operation, to keep the Polish govt quiet forever, but in my professional frogman opinion, it was a USN operation.)


31 posted on 10/02/2022 12:32:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Doctor Congo

I have not heard nor seen a single NATO country ask why NATO did not thwart this attack?

Is the Port of Amsterdam next on the Target list?


65 posted on 10/02/2022 4:03:20 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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