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Pepe Escobar: Germany and EU have been handed over a declaration of war
theinteldrop.com ^ | September 29, 2022 | Pepe Escobar

Posted on 09/30/2022 7:51:00 AM PDT by elpadre

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To: refermech
Biden talked about blowing them up. Did he follow through?

LOLOL!

Biden: "I see Jackie Walorski"

21 posted on 09/30/2022 8:43:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Travis McGee

Anne Applebaum is a real piece of work.


22 posted on 09/30/2022 8:54:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: AZJeep
Thanks for asking the question.

I see we got an answer

The guys on The Duran were talking yesterday about how Gazprom was reluctant to go ahead with the project [NS2] - but Angela Merkel reassured them and Putin that no sanctions would ever affect Nordstream 2.

Apparently, the DC neocons have had it in for Nordstream 2 for a long, long time.

23 posted on 09/30/2022 9:03:25 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: jacknhoo
Duh... Russia is the most likely candidate. The water is at least 50 meters deep. There is a deep trench that runs toward Russia. It would be difficult for the US to get sub's past the shallow Denmark waters.

Does Denmark's sensors cover sub's in International waters?

You are an emotional decisionmaker and read what you want to read.


24 posted on 09/30/2022 9:14:02 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired
It would be difficult for the US to get sub's past the shallow Denmark waters.

Not if they're invited.

For example: the Danes knew all about BALTOPS22 that took place in June.

It's an open question as to whether or not the Danes knew that elements of the U.S. Navy 6th Fleet were surreptitiously laying mines on crtitical German NG infrastructure near Bornholm. But they certainly knew that they were in the area.

25 posted on 09/30/2022 9:32:54 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: tired&retired

“The water is at least 50 meters deep.”

Pay attention this time. The fact is stated in the article:

“As for prospective “invisible” vessels, these could only loiter around with permission from Copenhagen – as the waters around Borholm are crammed with sensors, reflecting fear of incursion by Russian submarines.”

“You are an emotional decisionmaker and read what you want to read.”

Now, who reads what they want to read?

Also, keeping to your routine, you can read this in denial too:

It’s Not Crazy To Think Biden Sabotaged Nord Stream To Deepen US Involvement In The Ukraine War
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4097222/posts
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“Far more likely, I think, is that U.S. special forces did it on orders from the White House. Tucker Carlson floated this idea on Fox News earlier this week and was roundly mocked for it by the likes of The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake, among others. But the theory cannot be so easily dismissed — not least because, as Carlson and others noted after the sabotage, Biden himself said back in February that if Russia invaded Ukraine, there would no longer be a Nord Stream 2, that “we will bring an end to it.”

To understand why the Biden administration would take such a drastic step, we need to understand something that has been true about the Democrats for nearly two decades, and certainly since the administration of Barack Obama: They tend to view all U.S. foreign policy as primarily an instrument of domestic politics. From their opportunistic opposition to the Iraq war going into the 2006 midterms, to Obama’s policies on Iran and the Arab Spring and especially Russia, Democrats have come to calibrate their responses to events abroad through a domestic partisan lens.

Put another way, American foreign policy is for them a means to an end that has mostly to do with gaining and retaining power in Washington. Think of the now infamous “Russia Reset,” when in March 2009 then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton presented Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov with a giant red plastic “reset” push-button, a symbol — albeit a botched one, the button was mislabeled with the Russian word for “overcharged” — meant above all to be a repudiation of President George W. Bush’s Russia policy, which called for missile defense installations in eastern Europe that Obama promptly canceled in the name of the “reset.” For Obama, who ran for and won office as an anti-Iraq war candidate, Russia policy was less about U.S. or European security and all about showcasing to his domestic supporters just how unlike his predecessor he was.

The Russo-Ukrainian war is no different. Facing a historic midterm wipeout and the loss of Congress, it isn’t hard to see why, with November barreling down on us, the Biden administration would choose this moment to escalate in a way that draws NATO into the war. The point is to rescue the president’s failing administration. Biden, in this scenario, becomes a war president. How much easier and more plausible it would be to then blame the tanking economy and rising prices on Putin and Russia? Easier, too, to denounce Republicans who oppose U.S. involvement as traitors to democracy — something Democrats already do with far less provocation.

One might object that although Biden and the Democrats are clearly stupid, surely they are not as malevolent as all that. On the contrary, I find it rather easy to believe that Biden possesses the kind of malevolence and resolve required to sabotage Nord Stream 1 and 2 for reasons that have mostly to do with domestic politics. After all, it takes boldness, innovation, and naked aggression to weaponize the Justice Department and FBI in the ways that we have seen over the past two years. The Democrats barreled ahead with it, even though it risks tearing the country apart.

Why? Because they see criminalizing their political opposition as one of the only paths to retaining power, and are willing to hazard everything to achieve that. If they are willing to weaponize domestic law enforcement for political gain at home, it is not too much to suppose they would pursue a policy of escalation with Russia to cling to power, which in the end is the one thing they really care about.”


26 posted on 09/30/2022 9:51:35 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Travis McGee

Sikorski is also pretty notorious antigovernment (present day PiS Polish gov.) activist.
Known for all kind of false statements.
Is seems he blamed Polish gov. then US, now Russia?
I would not trust him at all!


27 posted on 09/30/2022 1:52:49 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Pollard

Very appropriate.


28 posted on 09/30/2022 6:09:25 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: jacknhoo

Excellent argument.


29 posted on 09/30/2022 6:15:11 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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