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Lights out, cold showers in Europe
Hot Air ^ | 3 Aug 2022 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/04/2022 6:06:23 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Maybe, this will energy stressor will stimulate research & new possibilities other than nuclear:
https://www.profolus.com/topics/ceto-system-clean-electricity-water-desalination-oceanic-waves/


61 posted on 08/04/2022 2:43:40 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com ( )
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To: gleeaikin

I have gas heat here in GA, 1600ft^2 two story 3 br, 2.5 bath home. Keep the thermostat at 70F in the winter A/C at 74 in summer. $100mo gas in winter $40 in summer (gas range and water heater), $165 a month electric all year round (we do budget billing so it’s averaged).


62 posted on 08/04/2022 3:08:48 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo

My mom kept her house at those temperatures.


63 posted on 08/04/2022 3:17:36 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: combat_boots; All

Why move? The $1k bill was 10 years ago. The next year was around $300, and even now ten years later my total heating gas and electric is only about $500 the worst months. Also I can walk to my banks, my post office, several grocery stores, plenty of restaurants and specialty stores. etc. And I have my own garage. An trees up and down my block and those surrounding.


64 posted on 08/04/2022 3:30:16 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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To: jacknhoo; combat_boots; ought-six; All

I happen to have my figures for 2019 readily at hand, so decided to see what my gas heat for house and water and electric for light and heaters totaled for that year. This was for a 4 story row house, 4000 sq. ft. in the mid Atlantic area. Kitchen and laundry in the basement and bedrooms on 2nd and 3rd floor.

The average for both electric and gas per month was a little under $150 per month. It looks like yours would average a little more than $200 per month for both in a house less than 1/2 my sq. ft. Of course, my figures are 3 years old, but it looks like keeping my thermostat at 55, with space heat where and when I need it, and compact fluorescent lighting everywhere really is a cheap way to go. Good thing I like warm sweaters and shirts, and thermal underwear with sweatpants.


65 posted on 08/04/2022 5:31:11 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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To: FLT-bird

Nope. It’s fiction that it is anywhere but in Hanover and only for public showers during summer.


66 posted on 08/04/2022 7:36:31 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: ought-six

If you mean my solar power goes out when the grid power goes down, that’s not the case.


67 posted on 08/04/2022 10:09:03 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

“If you mean my solar power goes out when the grid power goes down, that’s not the case.”

The reason I asked is, if you are off-grid or not connected to a utility you are good-to-go if the grid goes down. However, if you have solar, and are part of a utility, what really happens is that your solar energy becomes part of the grid; it is not yours and yours alone. So, being on solar and on a utility, the utility decides who or where gets power during shortages.


68 posted on 08/05/2022 8:44:55 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
That's correct in many people's cases, but not mine. I don't export power to the grid at all. In fact, I paid extra for an inverter to have the "no export" feature.

That prevents me from being under the regulation that requires my system to automatically shut down when the grid power goes down. The end result is I'm not off grid as far as incoming power goes (when my solar isn't enough my system automatically pulls what I need from the grid). But I am off grid as far as outgoing power goes.

Or another way to look at it: to my utility I'm just an average customer like you, only I don't need power from them nearly as much. Just like you don't put power onto the grid -- I don't either. Just like you draw power from the grid when you need it -- I do too. Just like you don't have regulations saying you can't run a generator whenever you darn well feel like it -- I don't have regulations saying when I can or can't use my solar power.

69 posted on 08/05/2022 10:00:53 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

You chose wisely.


70 posted on 08/05/2022 10:14:09 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Cronos

Just wait. Winter’s coming.


71 posted on 08/05/2022 7:56:51 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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