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To: bitt

“But NOBODY wants to address WHY Russia moved into Ukraine in the first place.”

OH PLEASE - Russia moved into Ukraine because Putin woke up on Feb. 24 and decided to invade a country, for kicks.

Why else?


14 posted on 06/30/2022 9:09:06 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: BobL

It happened because NATO went from defense to offense. WE are the provocateurs, the aggressors.We won’t even defend the America’s from CCP colonization, but the money launderers in Ukraine? U betcha


17 posted on 06/30/2022 9:17:51 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: BobL

It happened because NATO went from defense to offense. WE are the provocateurs, the aggressors.We won’t even defend the America’s from CCP colonization, but the money launderers in Ukraine? U betcha


18 posted on 06/30/2022 9:17:53 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: BobL; Travis; kiryandil; All

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Such stuffing often happens in order to give this or that signal, or to look at the reaction. It seems that the confrontation between the office of the president and the military command is entering a new phase. One can only guess what result those who initiated the stuffing could get. However, the addressee, judging by the time, was someone in a different time zone.

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Urgent news. Today at 22.47 a car was blown up on Mikhail Grushevsky Street in Kyiv. The driver and two passengers were killed. Experts are working on the spot, the identity of the dead is being established. According to unconfirmed information, Valery was in the car ...
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23 posted on 06/30/2022 10:02:09 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: BobL

it’s easy to say for kicks.....military action has what they tell the plebs. what they tell the military and then the financial reason why those in control of governments of the world do it...we are all just pawns


38 posted on 06/30/2022 10:56:23 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: BobL

Trying to regain Soviet Union status?


39 posted on 06/30/2022 11:21:36 PM PDT by Does so (https//youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: BobL; knarf; bitt

Nobody wants to admit that the reason Russia is in Ukraine, is largely due to Joe Biden and the ruling families of the DNC, allegedly creating biological weapons in Ukraine.”

Ah, that’d explain why Putin and the Kremlin didn’t say a single word in any on-the-record international forum about biolabs in Ukraine for the last eight years and waited until after the Q followers started regurgitating rumors in an endless circle jerk with no clear primary source.

Did Russia miss the memo where, as a UNSC seat occupier with a level of “parliamentary privilege” alongside diplomatic immunity far above that of nations only in the General Assembly, it’s supposed to speak up if it has prima facae evidence of violations of international law that threaten sovereign nations?

Russia very occasionally remembers to talk about the biolabs. It really isn’t that big a deal to them.

NATO expansion is clearly such a big affront to Russia that it openly threatened two historically neutral countries that for decades have refused to join the club, into fast-tracking their membership.

Someone send Putin that Dale Carnegie book, Aesop’s Fables, and Uncle Remus. Wall-to-wall war feverish Russian propaganda over less than four months, managed to do what decades of schmoozing by NATO failed to achieve. Convince Sweden and Finland that Russia is the nation state equivalent of the Trenchcoat Mafia.

Russia constantly, daily, talks about establishing a multipolar globe with Russia the mighty pole of a reconquered Eurasia, where the USSR disbandment was a traitorous, calamitous mistake. Or possibly a clerical error.

Putin, Dugin and Zhirinovsky were talking about erasing that mistake as far back as the mid 90s and they’re still talking about it now.

That ethnonationalist, nostalgic obsession is the only constant narrative element in Putin’s Russia. Everything else comes and goes according to how expedient it happens to be.

Even if there is truth to biolabs and NATO expansion, they are simply aggravating factors. It believes totalitarian rule by proxies reporting to the Kremlin (like Chechnya and Belarus) is the natural order and the democracies formed after dismantling USSR are a violation of that natural order.


41 posted on 07/01/2022 1:05:01 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: BobL; bitt; Kevmo; BiglyCommentary; PIF; ought-six; libh8er; MercyFlush; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...

Putin did not wake up Feb. 24, he had 170,000 troops surrounding eastern Ukraine for months doing “practice exercises”, yah, right! Those of us who were actually paying attention did some research an discovered that a lot of Ukraines gas, oil and other resources were concentrated in the very areas that Putin is now struggling to hold on to.

Some of us were even paying attention back when Bolton (i think it was him) wanted to move the Office on Pandemics out of the White House, I think to the umbrella security office. The US had been cooperating and supplying funds to over 40 countries to deal with pandemic issues. I imagine Ukraine was one of them. We had recently dropped several of these countries from the money pipeline. I think China may have been one of them. All this was before the Covid pandemic. At any rate a more fruitful line of research than wild conspiracy theories about most recent activities.


45 posted on 07/01/2022 2:21:45 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority)
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