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To: PIF

We will have to disagree, as even such characters as Igor Girkin/Strelkov, the former Defense Minister of the Donbass, sees only horror for Russia’s forces on the horizon. Ukraine has already achieved a major victory in Kharkiv Oblast over the past 100 hours.

There are already videos coming out of Howitzers on the front line as well blowing up Russkie targets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVw3AyMTtQU&t=205s


56 posted on 05/11/2022 2:52:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Yes that's the UA 81st just west of Izyum. Well they may be right, but the Orcs have 16 uncommitted mechanized brigades on the Orc side of the Border, plus all the troops from Kiev-East and West they are trying to reconstitute are just on the other side of the border from Kharkiv. The regular troops that were pounding the daylights out of the UA units at Kharkiv are now at the Izum bridgehead. If you want to imagine that trouncing 3rd rate conscripts on the Kharkiv salient is a major victory, fine. Don't believe propaganda from either side, just look at the forces as they are and what they are doing where. The truth of the war will reveal itself. 90 howitzers are not going to tun the tide against <3000 orc tubes - many of which are superior to the M-777. These are just the realities. The 100,000 rounds the US is supplying are short a zero and the numbers of guns short another zero. Videos are just an indication, not proof of anything one way or another. Those clowns are really struggling to use that tube. And one round in >4 minutes is not even close to its capability. Those shells looked like the standard M107 shell, nothing fancy. They should be firing 8 rounds during that video and, if they really were good, 28 rounds. Also we don't know what happened after: did orc counter-battery fire take it out? What is NOT shown? Just because you see a unit loading and firing a round which hits something is not anything to write home about - there are at least 3 other separate teams needed to make the tube do what it was designed to do. How well trained are they? If its like that fire team, not very well. Orc Msta & the 2S35 Koalitsija-SV 152 mm self-propelled howitzers both out-range and fire faster than an M777. They come standard with every Orc mechanized battalion, usually 6 units and maybe 9, plus the Orlon-10 spotter drone company. Did you know because of the poor command (like the Orcs) that some UA troops are literally handed advanced weapons and told to figure it out?
57 posted on 05/11/2022 4:29:00 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Sorry about the lack of Paragraphs - some sort of html must have slipped in ...

Yes that's the UA 81st just west of Izyum. Well they may be right, but the Orcs have 16 uncommitted mechanized brigades on the Orc side of the Border, plus all the troops from Kiev-East and West they are trying to reconstitute are just on the other side of the border from Kharkiv.

The regular troops that were pounding the daylights out of the UA units at Kharkiv are now at the Izum bridgehead. If you want to imagine that trouncing 3rd rate conscripts on the Kharkiv salient is a major victory, fine.

Don't believe propaganda from either side, just look at the forces as they are and what they are doing where. The truth of the war will reveal itself.

90 howitzers are not going to tun the tide against <3000 orc tubes - many of which are superior to the M-777. These are just the realities. The 100,000 rounds the US is supplying are short a zero and the numbers of guns short another zero.

Videos are just an indication, not proof of anything one way or another. Those clowns are really struggling to use that tube. And one round in >4 minutes is not even close to its capability. Those shells looked like the standard M107 shell, nothing fancy.

They should be firing 8 rounds during that video and, if they really were good, 28 rounds. Also we don't know what happened after: did orc counter-battery fire take it out? What is NOT shown?

Just because you see a unit loading and firing a round which hits something is not anything to write home about - there are at least 3 other separate teams needed to make the tube do what it was designed to do. How well trained are they? If its like that fire team, not very well.

Orc Msta & the 2S35 Koalitsija-SV 152 mm self-propelled howitzers both out-range and fire faster than an M777. They come standard with every Orc mechanized battalion, usually 6 units and maybe 9, plus the Orlon-10 spotter drone company.

Did you know because of the poor command (like the Orcs) that some UA troops are literally handed advanced weapons and told to figure it out?

58 posted on 05/11/2022 4:33:00 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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