Posted on 05/02/2022 11:47:20 AM PDT by ganeemead
The Nazi slander has become trite due to over-application, as has the “racist” slander. Both terms have been tossed about so casually that they have become meaningless. Today, anyone who disagrees with your (”your” in the generic sense) opinion is by default automatically a Nazi. It is the go-to bogeyman. As is the so-called New World Order.
Well, Ukrainian's did fight with Nazis, and these Nazis currently in Ukraine pay homage to Stepan Bandera. You can look him up.
Do you not understand the difference between a creditor nation and a debtor nation? A creditor nation is one who has the ability to extend credit because it has excess money, while a debtor nation requires someone to loan it money because it have no money left. In WWII we were a creditor nation. Now we are a debtor nation to the tune of 30 trillion and counting. In fact, we are in such a huge hole that we are now experiencing inflation, and that inflation is about to hit runaway status.
It matters, because it is one of the arguments I have made as to why we cannot support Ukraine.
By supporting Ukraine you are helping Joe Biden, can you not see this? Can you not see that we as a nation are broke? The only thing that keeps this nation moving is the fact that we are the world's currency. We will lose that status, because they world is getting tired of our bullying and would love nothing better than to not have to trade in U.S. dollars. Ukraine has already shown that it is more than willing to be a corrupt money laundering operation for the crooks who are robbing the U.S. citizens blind by giving them money out of our treasury, for which they get to keep some and funnel it back to this nation's crooks. You foolishly think you are supporting an independent and sovereign nation defending itself from an aggressor, but you are really supporting the destruction of this country. The destruction by a thousand cuts.
All, I can do is scream that you are being played like a fiddle. Wake up and start to understand what is really going on.
Our nation has orchestrated this whole conflict between Ukraine and Russia. You are not helping Ukrainians who are pawns being used in a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia.
You know how the left just keeps applying pressure, and never backs down don't you? Well, this is exactly what our country has been doing to Russia. Only we keep exerting pressure on Russia with NATO expansion, even after giving Russia assurances in 1991 that NATO would not expand.
You are not helping the Ukrainian people. Most of them do not want what is going on over there at all. But because you never listen to other sources, you never hear these things.
You disassembling little sh!t. You said that I “…dispute Ukraine has any Nazis. That Ukraine’s Nazis have no similarity whatsoever with the German Nazis.”
I called you out on that, and asked you to show where I said it. And I followed that up with: “I never said it because every country has someone who espouses those ideas. My criticism is that labeling one’s opponents ‘Nazis’ or ‘Racists’ has become too common, too casual. So common and so casual that the terms have lost all meaning.” You ignored that completely, but you responded with:
“post #23 this thread: ‘The Nazi slander has become trite due to over-application, as has the “racist” slander. Both terms have been tossed about so casually that they have become meaningless. Today, anyone who disagrees with your (”your” in the generic sense) opinion is by default automatically a Nazi. It is the go-to bogeyman. As is the so-called New World Order.‘”
Yes, that post #23 is my comment. But where in the hell in that comment did I say that I disputed Ukraine has any Nazis, or anything about a similarity with German Nazis; or anything even remotely close to that? I notice you also left out my very next sentence: ‘You do know, I assume, that to a “globalist” YOU are a Nazi? Ergo, applying that logic, being anti-globalist makes one a Nazi. Yet, to an anti-globalist a globalist is a Nazi.’ You left it out because you couldn’t use it in your disassembly, just as you left out my follow-up sentence above, because they clearly showed that I NEVER made the comment you accused me of making, and that what I DID say was simply that the term was used so casually, and that it was so over-used, that it had become meaningless.
You are not only dishonest, you are dishonorable. You are a waste of my time. I just cannot abide dishonesty and dishonor, particularly when they are wedded together.
We are done here. This conversation is over.
That's fine, I will respect your wishes. This is not the forum to really discuss this anyway, as I am not the best at organizing my arguments into sound bite formats because there really is too much of sound bite arguments taking place here and it's totally useless.
One last request though is that you watch the following video that is an hour and 10 minutes in length. It will be, hopefully, much more effective than I have been in trying to make you see why you and the rest of the cheer-leading narrow-minded view that this war is all about Russia's invading Ukraine. That they did so, because they are evil and want to enslave their Ukrainian neighbors and take their natural resources. That Russia wants to reconstitute the USSR. Somehow you all believe that Russia is the USSR, but they are as different as night & day.
Regardless of what you think about me, I still have no ill-will towards you at all. Mainly because I know that we have more in common than we have is disagreement. However, it is obvious that you are emotional on this particular topic, regardless of your saying that you are not emotional. Because your retort is exactly how emotional people respond.
BTW, I am neither dishonest nor dishonorable as you claim. It is hard to take the unpopular position. We suffer the potential of the kind of disdain and attacks that are thrown at us such as you have interjected many times, while some have called us Putin apologists and Putinistas etc. In reality we are trying to convey that the possible negatives far outweigh the positives from this conflict. We endanger far more people, including the Ukrainians, by continuing the expansion of this conflict.
Anyway, I wish the best for you and your family, and may God Bless the world, because we are in dire need of blessing.
“However, it is obvious that you are emotional on this particular topic, regardless of your saying that you are not emotional. Because your retort is exactly how emotional people respond.”
No emotion at all. It’s just a waste of my time to dialogue with a dishonest and deceitful person, as there can be no meeting of the minds.
“Anyway, I wish the best for you and your family, and may God Bless the world, because we are in dire need of blessing.”
Thank you. And I pray God hears you, as well.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, not that I really care what your opinion of me is anyway, because it doesn't matter to me. For I know I am not what you label me as.
But, you may want to watch the interview to broaden your horizons on the topic of saving Ukraine, and the evil you perceive as Putin & Russia. I'm not saying Putin is an angel, but neither is he the monster you believe him to be either. So, do yourself a favor and watch the video. I truly would be interested in your take on what the Lt. Colonel has to say.
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