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To: NorseViking

No article at the link. Also, I don’t recognize the source. Also, that is all you have?

Sorry, but that is awfully thin for so serious an allegation.


54 posted on 03/05/2022 12:42:46 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Belteshazzar

Google Ukrainian Civil War. The figures are universally accepted.


55 posted on 03/05/2022 12:49:02 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Belteshazzar; NorseViking; freeandfreezing
[NorseViking #46] Where have you been for 8 years when Ukraine was killing 14,000 people in Donbas?

[Belteshazzar #48] What are your sources for this 14,000 number? Give the links. Or, if not on the net, give the citations.

[freeandfreezing #50] According to published sources the actual number of civilians killed in that fighting is nowhere close to 14,000.

[Belteshazzar #54] No article at the link. Also, I don’t recognize the source. Also, that is all you have?

I also found the NorseViking link at #46 to be noted as without textual content at this time.

The claim at #46 refers to people, not civilians. The actual claim of 14,000 deaths appears substantiated and attributable the Ukranian government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

War in Donbas

Main article: War in Donbas

The overall number of confirmed deaths in the war in Donbas, which started on 6 April 2014, has been put at 13,100–13,300, by 31 January 2021.[9] According to the Ukrainian government, 14,000 were killed by 13 May 2021.[10]

TOTAL 13,100–13,300 killed
6 April 2014 – 31 January 2021
United Nations[9]

TOTAL 14,000 killed
6 April 2014 – 13 May 2021
Ukrainian government[10]

Civilians 3,393 killed (312 foreign)
6 April 2014 – 30 September 2021
United Nations[11]

UAF, NGU and volunteer forces 4,641 killed[note 1]
6 April 2014 – 23 February 2022
Museum of Military History[7][12][13]

DPR and LPR forces 5,772 killed
6 April 2014 – 11 February 2022
United Nations & DPR[9][14]

Russian Armed Forces 400–500 killed[note 2]
6 April 2014 – 10 March 2015
US State Department[15]

The Wikipedia source link goes to a TASS article of 13 May 2021 quoting a speech by Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.

TASS article

This is further attributed by various well known sources. A sampling follows:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-troops-start-pulling-back-ukrainian-border-77263538

More than 14,000 people have been killed in seven years of fighting between Ukrainian troops and the Russia-backed separatists.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-04-20/russia-rejects-criticism-of-navigation-limits-off-crimea

Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in March 2014 after the country's former Russia-friendly president was driven from power by protests. Moscow then threw its weight behind separatists in eastern Ukraine, and the conflict there has killed more than 14,000 people in seven years.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/24/ukraine-russian-consulate-in-lviv-hit-by-molotov-cocktail

Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and threw its support behind a separatist rebellion in eastern Ukraine. More than 14,000 people have been killed in the fighting, which has devastated also Donbas, Ukraine’s industrial heartland.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2021/12/01/Ukraine-s-foreign-minister-urges-NATO-for-deterrence-package-against-Russia

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said direct talks with Moscow were needed to end the war in the east, which Kiev says has killed more than 14,000 people.

58 posted on 03/05/2022 1:30:40 PM PST by woodpusher
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