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To: Shadow44; GingisK; Leaning Right; EEGator

Why do you think US troops wipe out Islamic militants in open combat? They may be crazed killers, but they don’t have the combat discipline necessary for organized warfare.

Good troops fight in an systematic fashion, and obey the orders that come down through the chain of command. That’s how battles are won.


30 posted on 02/26/2022 8:12:50 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

They’re not insurgents, they’re regulars.


37 posted on 02/26/2022 8:16:12 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: proxy_user

Ukrainian civilians are not US troops.
Chechens are not genetically similar to camel humpers.
They are more disciplined and intelligent.


40 posted on 02/26/2022 8:17:34 AM PST by EEGator
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To: proxy_user

Years ago I read a superb book about the 1945 fall of Berlin, ‘The Last Battle’ by Cornelius Ryan. The front-line Soviet assault troops were disciplined and professional.

But after them came all sorts of rabble. Many were conscripts drawn from Soviet minorities. It was those latter troops who did most of the murdering, raping, and looting. I suppose the Chechens would play that role in Ukraine today.

If Putin is aware of this, I wonder if he would care.


57 posted on 02/26/2022 8:41:30 AM PST by Leaning Right (But The steal is real.)
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The only reason US troops wipe out anyone in “open battle” is because we can sit in an air conditioned AWACS plane, strike aircraft, or Guided Missile Cruiser and press a button sending a cruise missile hundreds of miles away to kill something. Hell, even if you want to talk about ground equipment, the Abrams easily outguns (and out armors) any armored vehicle that any organized Middle Eastern army possesses. But let’s not pretend that the US (or any western army for that matter) is broadly tougher or more hardened than anyone else. If we (or a European army) couldn’t count on 500 to 1 kill ratios due to technology, I don’t think there would be any question of who would win. Just take the most recent example where technology was heavily mitigated to due to terrain, guerrilla tactics, and a desire to “win over the population”.... a.k.a. Afghanistan. This is why we can relax physical fitness standards, and let all sorts of degenerates into the military now...because modern war is less dependent on large quantities of hardened, disciplined soldiers and more dependent on techies and people who are good a video games.


71 posted on 02/26/2022 10:35:27 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: proxy_user
Gee, I'd have never thought of something like that. < /sarcasm>

You may not have been keeping up with current events; however, those Chechen thugs are not being sought to engage US troops or a formal army.

72 posted on 02/26/2022 12:49:08 PM PST by GingisK
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