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‘Humiliating’: 2004 Guardian Report Peddling Climate Doom By 2020 Frozen Out
NewsBusters ^ | 12/27/2021 | Joseph Vazquez

Posted on 12/27/2021 2:29:30 PM PST by JV3MRC

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Guardian published a report in 2004 sounding the alarm bells over a “secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs” and obtained by sister newspaper The Observer. Here was the harrowing message, according to The Guardian: “[M]ajor European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020.”
Panic Porn from Partisan Media Shills and Stooges alert.

21 posted on 12/27/2021 3:28:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: JV3MRC

Liberals are never humiliated about being wrong.


22 posted on 12/27/2021 3:28:22 PM PST by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: JV3MRC

The world didn’t end at ten? No wonder there were no details at 11. Will it end at 12?


23 posted on 12/27/2021 3:31:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: JV3MRC

tell ‘em, Dr. Plimer:

20 Dec: Climate Depot: Geologist Dr. Ian Plimer on his new book: ‘Green Murder: A Life Sentence of Net Zero with No Parole’ – ‘I’ve had a gut full of the greens telling lies…frightening children’
Dr. Plimer: “I’ve had a gut full of the greens telling lies. I’ve had a gut full of the greens frightening children. I’ve had a gut full of green schemes that will send this country bankrupt. I’ve had a gut full of the greens trying to take the high moral ground because they don’t. Their policies end up in people losing prosperity, people dying, the environment being ruined and people having no hope.”
https://www.climatedepot.com/2021/12/20/geologist-dr-ian-plimer-on-his-new-book-green-murder-a-life-sentence-of-net-zero-with-no-parole-ive-had-a-gut-full-of-the-greens-telling-lies-frightening-children/


24 posted on 12/27/2021 3:34:12 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Pearfect
> Vote democrats out.

The ongoing importation (legal or otherwise) of voters from collectivist cultures is outpacing our native birth rates ...

25 posted on 12/27/2021 3:35:36 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: JV3MRC

I’ll tell you what it will take to make me a believer in what the “experts” tell us about “climate change”.

First, remember in 2016 there was an eclipse of the sun and the experts were able to tell us, with great accuracy, where and when the eclipse would occur. This demonstrates understanding of the orbital systems.

So, I’ll believe these climate “experts” when they can demonstrate an understanding of the climate system well enough to predict, say, a Category 3 hurricane will make landfall within +/- one week from month/day/year at, say, Cocoa Beach, Florida +/- 50 miles. And of course, that has to come true.

Do that several times in a row and I’ll be convinced.


26 posted on 12/27/2021 3:37:05 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: JV3MRC
Just because the catastrophes didn't happen doesn't mean they could have happened.
27 posted on 12/27/2021 3:41:49 PM PST by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict at Large)
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I think that prediction about Siberian winters for Europe by 2020 came out of the concept that global warming would be melting the Greenland ice so rapidly that the North Atlantic would be full of its cold meltwater and this would slow down the Gulf stream, force the jet stream south, and allow Siberian air to make the westward trek into Europe more often than had been the case in the recent past (up to 2004). The prediction was actually gaining some ground when a series of cold winters hit between 2009 and 2013. After those however the trend has been quite mild generally (in European winters). There was an unusually cold spring in 2021 though.

Actually the book is not really closed on this prediction. Greenland ice melt has not been as rapid, the North Atlantic has not changed very much if at all, and so the postulated cause and effect was either wrong or at least too fast. The alternate theory from the mainstream said that this prediction was wrong anyway and it would just keep warming up everywhere. That has been somewhat obscured by natural variability, a quiet Sun and that aforementioned cold spell of winters (which showed up in North America closer to 2014-15 with the polar vortex winters).

Anyway, as some have already commented, most very confident long-range weather forecasts turn out to be wrong because we don’t really have the full knowledge needed to make such predictions, as we do with astronomical events like eclipses.

There is probably nothing unsound about the idea of a slowly warming earth for a number of different reasons, it was probably going to be the case anyway since we are moving further into the inter-glacial, even if astronomical forcing factors are weakly supporting cooling, that won’t overcome the inertia of the warming atmosphere of the post-glacial until there’s a stronger turn of the forcing in a few thousand years. And the human factor is not imaginary, I consider it over-hyped but we are making small differences.

It’s all very complex which makes forecasting a mug’s game, until we better understand all the complexity, the forecasts are bound to overemphasize one factor and underemphasize a bunch of other factors some of which may not even be known to science at all at this point in time.


28 posted on 12/27/2021 3:50:38 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (a cloud has fallen over the lands of the free )
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To: SamAdams76
"These grifters have been around as long as I've been old enough to read. I still remember the Paul Ehrlich books my mother used to scare herself with back in the 1960s. "

Indeed, see thread The Book That Incited a Worldwide Fear of Overpopulation ‘The Population Bomb’ made dire predictions—and triggered a wave of repression around the world

29 posted on 12/27/2021 4:27:20 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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Pristine Alaskan Glacier Turns Into Tropical Wasteland

(Frosty Cove, Alaska) Few places on Earth have suffered the ravages of global warming more than Alaska. While recent news reports have highlighted accounts of the native Inuits' snowmobiles falling through the ice, threatening their traditional way of life, there are isolated parts of Alaska have been completely transformed by global warming.

Possibly the most frightening example of this climate catastrophe that continues to unfold before the eyes of humanity is the case of Frosty Cove, Alaska. Once dominated by a pristine ice field, with a slowly advancing glacier dumping its frigid cargo into the sea, the Cove's original beauty has been forever lost.

width="350" height="227"> 1986: Frosty Cove's original pristine state featured majestic ice fields and rock outcroppings.


Totally devoid of the ice and magnificent rock outcropping that once adorned the lanscape, Frosty Cove has become the poster child for the ravaging effects of global warming. In the accompanying pair of photographs, taken only twenty years apart, the environmental degradation is immediately obvious. Types of vegetation totally foreign to Alaska have invaded the region, upsetting the delicate ecological balance that once existed. Clouds of mosquitos, once so abundant in the cool moist climate of Alaska, have all but disappeared.

width="350" height="233"> 2006: Frosty Cove's original beauty has been forever lost, now replaced with invasive foreign plant and animal species.


"We have been astounded by the environmental degradation that has occurred at Frosty Cove", said Dr. John Striker, director of Alaska's Cold Preservation Institute. "This level of transformation in only twenty years is sobering -- clearly, global warming has gotten out of hand in Alaska, and now other fragile ecosystems in polar regions are threatened as well".



30 posted on 12/27/2021 4:37:43 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: rllngrk33
The Cooling World Newsweek, April 28, 1975

Scan of the article is here.

But then there is this attempt to down play it,

Newsweek Science Writer Looks back on Infamous 1975 “Ice Age” Piece January 13, 2014

Newsweek being Newsweek, we might have pushed the envelope a little bit more than I would have wanted,” Gwynne offered. But the story was tantalizing enough that other variations – somewhat more nuanced – were written by the New York Times and National Geographic, among others. The theory picked up support from some pretty reputable scientists: the late, esteemed Stephen Schneider of Stanford endorsed a book on the issue. But there also was a small but growing counter-theory that carbon dioxide and other pollutants accompanying the Industrial Age were creating a warming belt in the atmosphere, and by about 1980 it was clear that the earth’s average temperature was headed upward. - https://climatecrocks.com/2014/01/13/newsweek-science-writer-looks-back-on-infamous-1975-ice-age-piece/

Then there is this from Forbes: "The Fiction Of Climate Science:"

Excerpts:

Random House dutifully printed "THE WEATHER CONSPIRACY … coming of the New Ice Age."

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age.",

In 2002 I stood in a room of the Smithsonian. One entire wall charted the cooling of our globe over the last 60 million years. This was no straight line. The curve had two steep dips followed by leveling. There were no significant warming periods. Smithsonian scientists inscribed it across some 20 feet of plaster, with timelines. Last year, I went back. That fresco is painted over.

The Christian Science Monitor observed that armadillos were retreating south from Nebraska to escape the "global cooling" in its Aug. 27, 1974 issue.

I do not deny there could an upward trend on overall global temps, but not as unprecedented and spelling the doom of man, and in fact many positive aspects result from warming. One being:

Greening of the Earth Mitigates Surface Warming | NASA www.nasa.gov › feature › greening-of-the-earth-mitigat... Nov 23, 2020 — A new study reports that increased vegetation growth during the recent decades, known as the “Greening Earth”, has a strong cooling effect on the land due to increased efficiency of heat and water vapor transfer to the atmosphere.

But the past dire warnings of climate cooling testify to how science can be wrong https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

And from https://www.johnlocke.org/update/climate-experts-believe-the-next-ice-age-is-on-its-way-within-a-lifetime/

"Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way…within a lifetime…" Leonard Nimoy 1978 VIDEO

Find this full list and additional videos here.

1970 – Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age – Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)

1970 – Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)

1970 – New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)

1970 – Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)

1970 – Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)

1970 – Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)

1971 – Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (The Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)

1971 – Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)

1971 – Pollution May Bring Ice Age – Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)

1971 – U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)

1971 – Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)

1971 – New Ice Age Coming – It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)

1971 – Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)

1971 – Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)

1972 – Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)

1972 – There’s a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)

1972 – Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)

1972 – British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (Portsmouth Times, September 11, 1972)

1972 – New Ice Age Slipping Over North (Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)

1972 – Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September 12, 1972)

1972 – British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)

1972 – Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)

1972 – Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters – Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)

1973 – The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)

1973 – ‘Man-made Ice Age’ Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)

1973 – Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (Herald-Journal, June 28, 1973)

1973 – Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)

1973 – Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way(The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)

1974 – Ominous Changes in the World’s Weather (PDF) (Fortune, February 1974)

1974 – Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming? (Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)

1974 – New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)

1974 – Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)

1974 – 2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near (The Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)

1974 – Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (The Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)

1974 – Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)

1974 – Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, December 5, 1974)

1974 – More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, December 5, 1974)

1974 – Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 5, 1974)

 **** 1974 CIA Report on climate change (or here) ****

1975 – Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)

1975 – Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)

1975 – B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (The Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade(Youngstown Vindicator, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)

1975 – New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, March 2, 1975)

1975 – There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, March 3, 1975)

1975 – The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (The Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)

1975 – The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)

1975 – Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)

1975 – Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)

1975 – Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)

1975 – In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)

1975 – Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 11, 1975)

1976 – The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book](Lowell Ponte, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)

1976 – It’s Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)

1976 – Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)

1977 – Blizzard – What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)

1977 – The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)

1977 – The Ice Age Cometh… (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)

1977 – Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)

1977 – We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)

1978 – The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)

1978 – Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age (The Deseret News, January 2, 1978)

1978 – Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead(Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Winters Will Get Colder, ‘we’re Entering Little Ice Age’(Ellensburg Daily Record, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder (Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)

1978 – It’s Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January 17, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, February 13, 1978)

1978 – Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978)

1978 – The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)

1978 – An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)

1979 – A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)

1979 – The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age Building Up (Ellensburg Daily Record, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Spokane Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)

1979 – Get Ready to Freeze (Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)

1979 – New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)


31 posted on 12/27/2021 4:40:57 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: rllngrk33; libertylover; SamAdams76
Note that my posts of false predictions (and parody of them) does not mean I disallow that Global Warming can be happening, but that "experts" (a broadly defined breed whose ranks seem to have grown exponentially with Covid) are too often wrong or misleading and alarmist. And that the benefits of Warming are greatly minimized, while what is sure is that Divine judgment will come, and which experts scoff at.

And which judgments will include a real Warming that ought to be feared:

And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. (Revelation 16:8-11)

32 posted on 12/27/2021 4:52:48 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Spok

With Europe on the brink of freezing in the dark this winter, many will have no time to worry about global warming. La Niña conditions will bring cold winter to the northern US. as well.


33 posted on 12/27/2021 5:03:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the Narrative.. )
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To: daniel1212

Interesting thread, thanks for linking it.


34 posted on 12/27/2021 5:04:03 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 58 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: Michael.SF.

Yep, his real name was Tony Corti or something like that. Going as far back as the early 1970s leftists have been nothing but frauds.


35 posted on 12/27/2021 6:01:54 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: SunkenCiv
Here was the harrowing message, “Major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020.”

LOL - like the sign at Glacier Park that said the glacier would be gone and melted by 2020... they had to quietly take down the silly sign...

36 posted on 12/27/2021 7:35:07 PM PST by GOPJ (Biden and his commie thugs don’t want us vaccinated they want us hated...)
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