Posted on 10/22/2021 12:37:12 PM PDT by Red Badger
1. unless he and everyone knew that it as a real firearm;
He knew it was a real gun.
2. he was expected to have experience with firearms;
As producer he was expected to know and enforce safety protocols. As the actor handling the gun he was expected to obey safety protocols.
3. he was clearly being careless in some way.
“in some way”. ROTFLMAO!
Ya. Kind of reckless to use a fully functional firearm as a prop. That would scare the heck out of me if I knew it. I might even complain.
Pointing a “empty” firearm at a person is very bad which would very likely happen during the production of a movie.
Not following the safety rules with a real firearm. Yikes!
“1. unless he and everyone knew that it as a real firearm; 2. he was expected to have experience with firearms; 3. he was clearly being careless in some way.”
If someone were to point a gun at your spouse or kid and kill them saying “I didn’t know it was loaded”?
You might be right.
But I wouldn’t expect Baldwin to know firearms. He hates them and the people who own them.
Clearly being careless — was he randomly pointing at people and pulling the trigger. If yes, that will certainly add to the prosecution’s case.
Definitely civil, though. Criminal is iffy in my opinion.
“This is a major production company,”
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Private party sales.
Family transfers.
I expect that the moms/wife’s family will be compensated. They probably have insurance too. OSHA insurance?
“Kind of reckless to use a fully functional firearm as a prop.”
Most Guns used on sets are real Guns.
Wow! I certainly hope that they have a full time firearms expert on set 24/7. And that person has to “certify” the firearms as beings “safe.” And if they are not, then they are liable.
“But I wouldn’t expect Baldwin to know firearms. He hates them and the people who own them.
As the actor he was expected to obey industry safety protocols.
As producer he was expected to enforce industry safety protocols.
“Clearly being careless”
reckless
[ˈrekləs]
ADJECTIVE
(of a person or their actions) without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action.
I wonder if the other weapons that they use on set are fully functional as well. Fully automatic, machine guns, rockets, grenades, etc. Probably not.
Yet to be seen. There is so little that we know about what happened. And a lot of people might be responsible.
But someone made a mistake that caused this woman’s death.
“I am curious to find out how they are managed as a functional firearm.”
In this case they were left unattended outside the set and handled recklessly.
“Yet to be seen.”
What in my post is yet to be seen?
But someone made a mistake that caused this woman’s death.
Someone? I could name many!
A mistake is when you make a wrong term. When you shoot and kill someone it is not a mistake.
Yup. Do they check out and check in the firearms? Similar process to a shooting range that rents firearms. The people at firearm ranges know gun safety and are responsible if someone is injured. They make sure that the firearm is functioning correctly too — cleaned periodically, etc. They may even control which type of cartridge is used. There should be a similar situation with a movie production company if they are using real firearms.
I read that “someone” used it to target practice prior.
“There is so little that we know about what happened. And a lot of people might be responsible.”
Mistake? No. Reckless disregard of industry safety protocols is criminal negligence. Some states have statutes on negligent homicide. In New Mexico it is Involuntary manslaughter.
“The people at firearm ranges know gun safety and are responsible if someone is injured.”
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