I work in the medical field. Some of my products have gone through clinical trials. I am not supposed to be involved with the trials. I don’t even get to see the data until the trials are finished. What we have with these vaccines is a massive clinical trial.
People cannot be compelled to participate in medical experiments. It is called informed consent. There is a big section on grant applications for this. There are special protections for some minorities (think Tuskeegee experiments) and children under the age of 18.
These vaccines wouldn’t pass acceptance criteria for clinical trials, at least from my experience.
Talking to you from someone who has this experience.
somewhere between phase I and II - I am not even sure phase I safety standards are established for some populations which are getting this. so few people have any background around the fda’s approval process. I came at it from the financial side but parsed a lot of studies (mainly nda-related). what is being said by authorities about these vaccines would be actionable misinformation under other circumstances.
Wife visited family physician today unrelated to covid. Doctor was telling her he regretted being vaccinated because he’d already had covid but was pressured in order to reopen his practice. He expressed concern that in the next few years we’re going to be learning more about the effects of the vaccines.
This is a modern suburban doctor. Hearing stuff like this is disconcerting.
Well it passed three phases of clinical trials so your experience is in question.
Informed consent is a big deal, or at least it used to be.
I spent two nights in the ER waiting room in April. The place was packed. About half the people were there because of reactions to the vaccines.