[NohSpinZone]

English monarchy trivia. King John was such an unpopular monarch, there has never been another King John in English and UK history. I believe John shares that distinction with Stephen, who reigned during a civil war.

[rfp1234]

John and his ally Emperor Otto IV got their asses kicked by Philippe Auguste at the Battle of Bouvines in 1214. That definitively ended England's attempts to reclaim Normandy, Anjou, and Aquitaine.

Losing the war to the French wasn't helpful when negotiating with the barons.

[EvilCapitalist]

Sharon Kay Penman wrote a historical fiction trilogy of books about that time period.

[crz]

Stephen was a Norman King. The last of them. There would have been no civil war if that bitch queen mother wouldnt have been around.

The result was Henry the 2nd, then young Henry, who the Old King wouldnt let do anything and was young King in name only, then Richard and then John Lackland.

[wardaddy]

Stephen was not nearly as maligned or disliked as much as John

Stephen was admired by many as was Matilda in fact

They simply couldn’t contain Geoffrey of Anjou and his various Norman supplicants who wished the throne