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Californians Warned To Prepare For Brutal Heatwave, Fire Risk
Zubu Brothers ^ | 6-15-2021 | Dan Whitcomb/Marguerita Choy

Posted on 06/15/2021 7:43:32 AM PDT by blam

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To: fireman15

If it’s less, there should be fewer. We’ll see how many we get.

I’m just fairly convinced that a lot of “wildfires” are due to policies that restrict clearing to reducec the risks of genuine, naturally-occuring (lightning, for example) grassland and forest fires.

Then there are other causes that are not so natural: homeless camps, careless recreationists,..., and my hunch of some firebug on some government payroll.

Fires in Oregon during the summer last year were appearing within hundreds of yards of the same stretch of highway, for example. Too many to spontaneously occur. Human agency causng mayhem during the “protests” is my guess.


41 posted on 06/15/2021 8:57:53 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Tell It Right

Need nukes to cover the base load and some combination of other power sources along with battery storage to cover the peaks and troughs. Just need someone to break through the gridlock of bureaucratic red tape and legal liabilities holding it all back. Build 400 new nuclear power plants and all our energy needs are covered for a century.


42 posted on 06/15/2021 8:59:55 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Truthoverpower
"If you notice the temperature in San Francisco you’ll see why everybody wants to move here"

When I lived there I always had a jacket and a blanket in my trunk.

43 posted on 06/15/2021 9:09:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Here in the south we don't need all of that. I don't know about where you live.


The only thing keeping me from being 100% off the grid is long term storage. That's largely in the winter when we can go a couple of weeks of rain -- no sunshine -- no new solar power. IMHO, a home electrolyzer unit can be powered during the spring and fall when we use little power (because we don't run the A/C or heat much) with the excess solar power, that generates hydrogen gas that can be stored in a tank. Later when I need power because my batteries are drained (say only 20% full) I can pull from the hydrogen (powering a fuel cell) to power the house and bring my batteries back up to a comfortable level (say 30% full). An Australian company has made a hydrogen electrolyzer fuel cell for homes and it's pricey. But if it's like solar and batteries and everything else used to be, soon the price will come down and I'll be off the grid.

44 posted on 06/15/2021 9:09:45 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: blam

Mark Twain is said to have remarked that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.


45 posted on 06/15/2021 9:17:31 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: BradyLS

My grandson is a professional wildland firefighter. Two years ago he was fretting about the wet Spring saying that all the brush and grass growing were going to cause lots of problems when it got dry. I mocked him in a light hearted way and he got upset with me. And of course it turned out to be a bad fire season as he had predicted. He hasn’t let me forget it since.


46 posted on 06/15/2021 9:22:30 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: forgotten man
Doctors Warn Of Burns From Asphalt As Heat Wave Hits US West
47 posted on 06/15/2021 9:23:04 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It used to be called “summer”.


48 posted on 06/15/2021 9:31:09 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Tell It Right

A) Not everyone can afford solar power. In fact, most can’t.

B) Storing hydrogen gas in a tank at your house? I can’t imagine anything that can go wrong there. Maybe I just need a ride on a blimp to consider what could possibly go wrong.

C) Solar doesn’t solve the base load issue, nor does it solve for people with lots of tree cover or who live further from the equator or for plenty of other scenarios like not enough roof cover.

Solar is - and always will be - a partial solution for part of the population. There will always be a need for base load centralized power. The safest and most reliable power on Earth is nuclear power. Even the original Greenpeace founders eventually figured that one out.


49 posted on 06/15/2021 9:38:23 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
I agree 100% that solar isn't for everyone.


I was thinking of storing the hydrogen outside the house like a propane tank. If there's a leak it floats harmlessly up because it's least dense gas. Though the one in Australia stores hydrogen as a solid.

50 posted on 06/15/2021 9:44:54 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

If I were ever even considering storing something like hydrogen on site, it’d be in an underground tank. Last thing you want is a risk that something ignites it and you have an explosion with tank shrapnel sailing through the yard. Battery storage is safer (not perfectly safe, but safer) and works great in the event of a power outage if you’re in an area with unreliable service. If not, there’s no need for storage. The grid itself becomes a form of storage.

That hydrogen will need a generator burning it and a system to feed it. Between that and the hydrolizer, there’s a lot of expensive and complicated components that can break. And I’m not sure what that’s really buying you. For the grid at large, nuclear power for base load makes the most sense and enables us to use whatever power we actually need rather than having to turn off every light bulb that isn’t absolutely necessary.


51 posted on 06/15/2021 9:51:52 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Hydrogen doesn't need a burner. A hydrogen fuel cell produces electricity with the only byproduct being water (because the fuel cell pulled in oxygen from the air). If you've heard of hydrogen powered cars, at the end of the day those cars are nothing but EV's with the exception that the electricity doesn't come from a battery but from a hydrogen fuel cell making the electricity like I just described.


Out where I live in a fairly rural suburb there are many people 10 miles from me living in houses fueled by large propane tanks sitting out in their yard. So large that when they need more fuel it's delivered in a large truck (and pumped into the tank). Nothing every happens with them. It's very rare I've heard of an explosion or fire with propane tanks in my lifetime. And that's with propane not being light enough to rise up harmlessly away from everybody if there's a leak like hydrogen does.


Just like solar, that won't work for everybody. But for many of us libertarian minded folks who move way out of the cities to get away from control-freak libs, it's an option I'm researching. Especially with the control-freak libs using global warming as excuse to take over more and more control of our energy consumption.

52 posted on 06/15/2021 10:05:47 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

I hope it works out for you. Be safe and take care.


53 posted on 06/15/2021 10:16:31 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: blam

It’s not gonna get that hot.

Wait ‘til August/September, then start looking for a cool place and a place to plug your EV in for a recharge.

The more EVs , the less power will be available for cooling.

California is perfecting the “How to destroy a state and its residents’, one kilowatt at a time.

The State Legislature needs a Total Recall, not just Gub. Gastric Nuisance.


54 posted on 06/15/2021 10:58:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!!)
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To: BradyLS

Fires popping up as metallic balloons get caught up in power lines.

They had a balloon induced fire in South San Jose and you can see the remnants still on the lines. Sadly, the hills and roadsides are parched&primed and ready to blow up into infernos easily spread by winds.

It is graduation time and all.. so look for more to come.


55 posted on 06/15/2021 11:02:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!!)
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To: BradyLS

Fires popping up as metallic balloons get caught up in power lines.

They had a balloon induced fire in South San Jose and you can see the remnants still on the lines. Sadly, the hills and roadsides are parched&primed and ready to blow up into infernos easily spread by winds.

It is graduation time and all.. so look for more to come.


56 posted on 06/15/2021 11:02:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!!)
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To: fireman15

It’s good to have the voice of experience to set me straight. I hope things go as you expect and prove my trepedations unfounded!


57 posted on 06/15/2021 11:22:33 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"They had a balloon induced fire in South San Jose and you can see the remnants still on the lines

In the late 60's when I lived in San Jose, they said that Valentine's Day was the worst 'power-out' day because the aluminum 'sweetheart baloons' would float up and short out the power lines.

58 posted on 06/15/2021 11:55:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“I thought California was supposed to have great weather. Guess that’s just the coast.”

Great in most of Northern California from Monterey and north if you are within 55-60 miles in the coast in most areas.

Going east past these great temps even 10-20 miles east can go from nice with no AC to miserable.

That extreme heat can extend from the Oregone border to the Mexican border.

https://i.ibb.co/wdRT29d/caltemps.jpg


59 posted on 06/25/2021 10:21:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (“Respond only to polite and intelligent posters! Who don’t insult you or us! Forget the others!”)
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