[Bob434]

well, this one is from a liberal site tryign to make the case chauvin is guilty- but you can see the prosecution’s witness actually say chaivin kneeled on the back and shoulder, not the neck- the site though immediately tries to say “But floyd’s shoulder was right near his neck”- which is nonsense- the knee was not on the neck no matter how close the neck was-

Floyd was breathing fine, right up until the drugs killed him. He was also speaking fine, which woudl be impossible if his airway was cut off to the point where he was suffocated to death

[Bob434]

woops- need link lol

https://reason.com/2021/03/30/derek-chauvin-argues-that-his-use-of-force-was-appropriate-and-did-not-kill-george-floyd/

[rlmorel]

I saw the video, and I couldn't tell clearly, the contrast was too high for me.

That said, there are four issues:

1. For the Minneapolis Police Department, is this an officially authorized technique for subduing a suspect? I think it is an authorized technique, but I haven't been able to circle back and find it...but I didn't make it up. I think it is out there.

2. Did Officer Chauvin get the appropriate training? I assume he did. Things like this are usually mandated, I would think.

3. Was Officer Chauvin justified in using this technique to subdue the subject? In my opinion, most certainly. If there was a valid subject, I would think it would be someone like George Floyd. If he hadn't resisted and fought, there wouldn't even be a question about it.

4. Did Officer Chauvin utilize the technique correctly? This is an open question which some may say the video resolves, showing Officer Chauvin's knee is on Floyd's shoulder blade/back, not his neck. I couldn't tell, but will look at other video.

Bottom Line: If this were a real judicial system, being run by Constitutional and legal principles, by people who are fair and impartial in his execution of this trial...then I cannot see how he could be convicted if I read all these things correctly (I am open to criticism of whether I did or not...I am not a policeman or a lawyer).

But sadly, we are seeing these are NOT "real" judicial systems that are in line with the Constitution and law, carried out by fair and impartial people.

It is a crap shoot.