You are my new hero. Forget that other guy.
Posted on 03/24/2021 10:34:34 AM PDT by ransomnote
Ha Ha Ha......Sister Mary Elephant. I knew her, she had a clicker she wacked us with.
Good one, after a while that crap gets very stale.
There are many ways to “fake” a trial. It doesn’t have to be intentional. Just poor design will do, or poor assumptions. Or poor controls. Unbalanced drug vs placebo arms. Lack of adherence to protocols. Garbage in garbage out type problems.
I am not saying the vaccines are bad, fake, dangerous, greatest thing since the wheel - no opinion. Two things bother me 1) they (NIH/CDC) bet the farm on vaccine development and that rush to judgement leaves room for a lot of errors and 2) they did not spend much money at all investigating potential treatments. They wrote billion dollar checks to develop NEW DRUGS and spent next to nothing to confirm what many small independent researchers were discovering about the biological action of the virus and how anti-virals (and/or anti-parasitics), minerals and vitamins COMBINED could help slow viral replication which then gives the body time to mount an effective immune response.
And what bothers me most is that they seem to have intentionally sabotaged #2 above (withdrawing emergency use, poo-pooing them in the media, even governors and pharmacy boards pulling medicines from the shelves and ratting out doctors who prescribe them). I’d argue that IF ivermectin or some other combination of drugs were shown to work in a large scale randomized study that they (NIH/CDC/Big Pharma) would have NEVER been able to develop or enroll or complete any vaccine trials at all. Anyone in a vaccine trial who came down with the virus would just take the pills and the trial data would be corrupted beyond repair. So IMO, they HAD TO put the kibosh on any research into off the shelf treatments in order to protect their large bet on vaccines.
Again, not saying anything good or bad about either, just thinking through the entire experience we all just went through.
You are my new hero. Forget that other guy.
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the entire forum.
Fauci is an international criminal and should be prosecuted.
But that would happen only in a just society.
And I’ll never get past the fact that Big Drug knew how far along the vaccine was, but delayed the announcement until after the election.
“only about 12-14% of the population has been completely vaccinated” (14% even, as of today)
About two weeks after a first shot though, you get better than 50% protection against developing symptomatic illness, and even better protection against hospitalization or death.
Those most likely to die (elderly or with co-morbidities) have been prioritized - magnifying the vaccine effect on death rate, relative to the general population. For young adults, COVID is not very fatal.
Virtually all US Nursing Home residents (who accounted for over 40% of COVID deaths last year) are now fully vaccinated. We just passed 70% of those 65 or older with at least a first shot, on today’s report.
Although there is a lag time for the immunity to fully manifest after vaccination, and between new cases and deaths; Crushing the COVID death rate should be pretty well be baked into the cake by the end of April - and is already, to a significant degree.
BTTT
But Pfizer is reputable. I read it right here on this thread.
Reputable FReepers wouldn't fake a post.
Or would they?
The anti vaccine idiots need to go back to their basement and contemplate their navel, I have no desire to see this fabricated, nonsensical garbage every day.
Thanks for the update... and sorry for spelling your screen name wrong :-)
Puhleeze, Mr. Gaslighter!
Anyone who Googles Pfizer Lawsuits, Pfizer scandals, Pfizer settlements, etc., will see that you are a big fat liar.
"... no cases of severe COVID‑19 were reported in the Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine group compared with 30 cases reported in the placebo group."
0 is miniscule, 30 isn't.
Why the unapproved, unlicensed mRNA vaccine and not the old weaken virus style vaccine?
I don’t know how many were enrolled in that particular trial, but if it is close to the 30,000 that I have read about then 30 is pretty miniscule. Of course a lot more information needs to be looked at but on the surface you could argue that 30 out of 15,000 is just statistical noise.
ping
“less likely to develop symptoms,...be hospitalized...die”...YET!
What happens three months from now, six months, a year?
NOBODY...not even a genius like you...knows.
It’s just my opinion here, I do not possess enough information to go beyond opinion but the mRNA vaccines do seem to have an insidious method of action - trigger the body to produce something that looks like a virus and then the immune system learn how to attack it. Which is what a vaccine is supposed to do but these sound like an intentionally inflicted auto-immune disorder. And the more we hear about them we find they may not really be ‘vaccines’ in the traditional sense at all - Fauci is all over the map on this topic saying it reduces hospitalization and death which is great, but that you can still transmit and catch the virus which isn’t exactly what one thinks of when one thinks of a vaccine.
And while my hope is they are all perfectly safe and effective it is just way too soon to say with certainty there won’t be some kind of blow-back from this mechanism of action. Something else bugs me is that as the OP mentioned this mRNA tech has been around 15 years and never showed proof of anything before. Suddenly a perfect storm brewed and gave them a reason to give it one more push. It just bugs me a bit; not judging the vaccines or efficacy or any of that - just a commentary on the experience of the last 12+ months.
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